[P2P-F] an evaluation of the flok as colonialist

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Sergio and all friends,

now we have the answers from Andreas and Gordon. I am very thankful for 
all this discussion to the evaluation of the FLOK and the intentions behind.

Andreas speak about very clear. Never you can cooperate with the people 
from the state "in power". This always, because her interest is to 
defense her staying in power. I think, this we can learn from our history.

"... stumbled on the logic of bureaucracies and paranoia on the part of 
people who see threats and conspiracies around every corner ...".

But what is that? That exist if the people "in power" have the defense 
of her power on the first level. Then they act on this way. You can see 
it very good in the principles of the so-called actual "internet". Never 
they ask for the technical quality of the construction. Never they 
discuss about alternatives based on a clear responsibility for a free 
communication systens for the people of our world.

And the commons? The community control of the natural ressources? You 
think, the people in the state institutions in Ecuador want to change 
this principles of the system in Ecuador? Never they support it.

Following of that and the knowledge in the FLOK groups about, you never 
found a fundamental discussion about this basic pre-step. You find many 
scurios and absurd theoretical discussions. But never a statement to 
this basic questions. And for the indigenas, for all working people in 
the rural environment im Latin America, this is always the core.

many greetings, willi
Bogota, Colombia



Am 7/7/2014 4:16 PM, schrieb Sérgio Storch:
> Michel, although I´m not involved in this endeavor, I feel so much empathy
> towards your commitment and generosity that I feel the duty of saying some
> words for the sake of recognition and encouragement.
>
> I´ve been through analogous situations so many times in life when beautiful
> ideas coupled with generous hearts and minds stumbled on the logic of
> bureaucracies and paranoia on the part of people who see threats and
> conspiracies around every corner that I feel so much as mine your
> frustration and feeling of lack of gratitude.
>
> It happens all the time with people driven by care for the wellbeing of
> others. You are not the first nor the last one to experience it.
>
> So I hope you are comforted by the solidarity of all the people who´ve been
> following your courageous steps , and go ahead. Get as a gift this
> Brazilian song that says, in my poor translation of the lyrics "Stand up,
> shake away the the dust, and turn around..."  -
> http://www.cifraclub.com.br/paulo-vanzolini/volta-por-cima/
>
> Best regards
> Sergio