[P2P-F] Fwd: Matriarchal Studies

Tue Aug 19 18:09:01 CEST 2014

I am in agreement with you, Denis, that there is a "deep silence" that shrouds this critical discussion of how people seem to act in consort with their proclaimed cognitively-argued values but often in clear, at least to others, discordant ways that suggest unearthed and unself-examined emotional confusion about earlier learned ways of seeing and being?  

This is the "tough stuff" for each of us and I wish that in all my experience it didn't end up being the most critical part of the communication breakdowns that consistently derail great commons thinking with potential great ideas and projects, but in actual practice is what often happens most.  I'm amazed and disheartened by the clear "integrity" breaks that manifest from this discordance, often resulting in the communication breakdowns that derail our getting through these issues to the other side, in any healthy and sustaining way.

In reference to Anna's response to Willi's claim that the necessary "independence in the local economy" trumps these discussions, I am much more aligned with Anna that without this work of imagining all of the underlying obstructions to this more equitable and even more loving world, you probably as a commons, will likely never get there.  We have seen this countless times in countless revolutions, where the bullies still triumphed by being bullies, even if under differently envisioned cognitive ideals.  The ideals didn't ultimately matter, the emotional "coherence" with those ideals and dealing with others with that coherence, did.

That's an emotional reality. It is taught by societies' inequities and cruelties while young I would argue, in order to counter the more innate drive for "fairness" and equality that I have found unerringly in all the thousands of very young children I have met and taught.  It services the rationalisation of our own privilege, to allow it to continue in one form or another, without deep examination about that rationalisation.

I understand that internal need created by the initial "innocence" fracture, taught in sexist, racist. classist societies that want to maintain that inequitable status quo, but I don't think we can continue to suggest we can truly get anywhere different if we don't start acknowledging and addressing it, in all of us who came from those kinds of societies.

It is therefore, and unfortunately because truly difficult work, not at all peripheral to these essential questions of sustainability and healthiness of humanity and the planet, but the core issues to address in truly getting to anywhere socially, economically and emotionally different.

But admittedly, some of the hardest work to do....:-)

Denis, you are apparently in "West London"?  Let's meet sometime and talk more about this and your psycommons work?

June

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 From: Denis Postle <d.postle at btinternet.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Fwd: Matriarchal Studies

On 16/08/2014 18:22, June Gorman wrote:

the key -- and I have found this to be the hardest for those trained well in cognitive displacement of inner heart "knowing" -- is to actually understand this emotionally, not just cognitively.  That's when actual human relationships are transformed, when we forge the paths of learning from each other that do not deny our different ways of understanding, but actually balances them so we can hear the gifts offered by that very "difference".  Over cultures and histories, as well as genders.
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>Anyway, critical to deconstruct as it so often is the underlying root of much of the dissension and "will to power over others" that is taught at the root of patriarchy but not, as this piece suggests and all my historical work has found as well, at the "power with one another" model at the ground of matriarchy.  
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>The key is to teach that at the level it is most understood, the level of the emotional heart, critical to any successful parenting of any human life and ultimately the planet that supports that and all life.Hi June, this is a very welcome statement for the list. 

If I was to coin a bit of a provocation based on it - the extent
      to which the cognitive and action aspects of our lives are
      driven/shaped by our imaginal and embodied emotional agendas do
      seem to me to generally remain out of reach in the conversations
      here. But then as I well understand, this is partly due to the
      professional capture and sequestration of psychological knowledge
      by pharma and medicine. We embrace physical fitness but psy
      fitness still seems trapped behind the 'mental illness' fiction and off the activist and academic life agendas.

For some constructive examples of how this stranglehold on psy
      fitness can be contradicted, listers might like to see my FREE ebook library, especiallyJohn Heron: Psyche and Personhood and the two videos about the psyCommons on http://[email protected].
Greetings
Denis

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