[P2P-F] "anonymous campaign against p2p-foundation"

Sun Nov 10 21:24:43 CET 2013

Dear Michel, and Anna, 
I have been keeping this conflict in the back of my mind yet coulnd't find a time to respond quitely to both you Michel and Heather, not sure if she is on this list. I was also hoping that both two good hearted and sharpest brains of our time wouldn't let it explode like this! now with this one it seemd geeting out of control. How can such expactable conflict reach to this level difficult to understand, so that almost there will be an anon ddos attack will be launched against a very very wrong target, may be the wrongest of all! I see practically how Heather could use her knowledge, links and swarming skills to launch an offnesive towards P2p-f. But why? There must be both personal, political and theoretical lessons to draw for the p2p theory and practice from the contradictory nature of the things here and sure that they will be very thoughtful. As For the immediate solution I also will try to talk Heather yet what could be good from your side Michel to do to neutrilise the accusation of Heather, which I read as 'p2p exploitation' of her and others by mainly you -in a way Tiziana argue for free labour, which makes you a p2p capitalist of some sort- can be sharing the P2P F's financial situation or any kind of public links you have on the p2pf wiki that would clarify that there is nothing like Heather is implicity or directly claiming. I think that would not only help to calm her down but would be good to stop anons and clear the confusion on the minds of your followers who do not really know about that much of the internal universe of the institution, including myself. Altough we all know how much we can achieve with almost no costs, but putting tons of hours of our free labour, an although we all know that we contribute collectively to our peers' reputations while we are building our own, the p2p distribution of the gains we make or value we create, when we are still stucked in the capitalis mode, still remains as the million dollar question we have to find an answer. I hope a kind of positive insight we might get out of this explosive conflict could also help us at the end to transcend the given exploitive relationships of any kind! Just zenn relax and turn it into  positive learning experience for all..
solidarity, Orsan

> On 10 nov. 2013, at 20:12, anna at shsh.co.uk wrote:
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> I am sure this is some sort of misunderstanding. I have had communication with Heather over a range of issues, and always found her appreciative and thoughtful. Please hold off judging if possible for a while.
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> Anna
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 10 Nov 2013, at 18:52, Fabio Barone <holon.earth at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Just ignore and keep up the fantastic work.
>> You never know where trolls come from or who sends them.
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>> 2013/11/10 Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>>> Anonymous Operations
>>> @YourAnonCentral
>>> A mob of overfunded old white men raging about an activists 'ego' & 'hysteria' after they stole her work. Nice.  @mbauwens @P2P_Foundation
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>>> dear friends,
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>>> if you haven't noticed, after falsely accusing us of stealing her work (she herself sent us her excerpts to publish); and 7/8 exploding accusations, Heather Marsh, who doesn't know me nor the p2p foundation, is continuing a disinfo campaign through the heavily following Anonymous account;
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>>> I can't possibly defend myself and the P2P Foundation alone against this, so I hope I won't be alone in refuting these allegations or pointing out that Anonymous is chosing a wrong target.
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>>> Above, they seem to believe that P2P-F is publicly funded, and ignore the real precarity and sacrifice of the many people working with and around this,
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>>> This is extremely sad, and I am frankly baffled,
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>>> Michel Bauwens
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