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ked Data can be used for with those of us who may have explored the topic a=
nd may see potential in supporting such research as to manifest them into c=
ertain applications, in support of , for example, p2p commons oriented poli=
tical economies.=A0

Cordially,
Dante



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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bo=
okman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"font-=
family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; "><span>Dante -</spa=
n></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent;=
 font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'b=
ookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size=
: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>I'm goin=
g to answer this groupwide b/c this, and related technology issues, touch o=
n a very tricky area for me in true sustainability education, working globa=
lly on these very ideas over the past several years.</span></div><div style=
=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(=
0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: norma=
l;
 "><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', '=
new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-c=
olor: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>To put it simply, I have bee=
n hearing about the possibilities and world-changing hopes for the web and =
internet and "connecting" across it since being at Berkeley in the late 70'=
s, with some of the first computer-techies filled with sincere, truly revol=
utionary fervor. &nbsp;And in so many ways, the information-connecting part=
 of their vision, came true. &nbsp;Globally. &nbsp;</span></div><div style=
=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(=
0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: norma=
l; "><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style',=
 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background=
-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>At the same time, I would
 and have argued often that it is not only this very imbalanced focus on sc=
ience and technology, but also the way it is learned and taught and spread,=
 that has help to lead us to the very in-human, technologically advanced cl=
iff of un-sustainability we are about to go over. &nbsp;</span></div><div s=
tyle=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: n=
ormal; "><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old sty=
le', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; backgr=
ound-color: transparent; "><span>Even more concerning for me as a teacher, =
is seeing a developing form of "metaphoric autism" in its strongest propone=
nts and users, and now the children. In my experience, this is very related=
 to this technology in that it not only seems to dramatically reduce the sk=
ill sets of harder, more complex interpersonal communication needed
 across diversity, diverse cultures and nations <span style=3D"font-style: =
italic;">more than ever</span> in true shared problem-solving, but also dan=
gerously effects these abilities for interpersonal communication (emotional=
 and social intelligences) in children to whom it is being introduced to as=
 the dominant education "model" over the older more human teacher-paradigm.=
 &nbsp;This is happening worldwide, pushed by a corporate and even for-prof=
it educational industry with very specific education agendas that this tech=
nology, taught in these ways, support and on behalf of "cutting educational=
 costs". &nbsp; There are real and significant resulting social costs, espe=
cially for communities and the concept of the "shared Commons". My entire f=
orthcoming book on education tries to explain this.</span></div><div style=
=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(=
0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style:
 normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old s=
tyle', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; back=
ground-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>At the same time, wh=
o can not see the possibilities in terms of learning with the massive infor=
mation-processing applications of these technologies? &nbsp;But it is not a=
ctually the area that I see of growing wariness with their increased use --=
 the concern and observation of actual destruction and loss of more empathe=
tic, emotional/social interpersonal skills and community-communication dyna=
mics (again, especially in children before the age of 10/11 years) which is=
 my far greater educational fear. &nbsp;So I am not quite the cheerleader I=
 &nbsp;might be if I hadn't seen this increasingly destructive result on ot=
her kinds of learning more critical to me, than just massive information pr=
ocessing. &nbsp;And I have found few who do see the beauty,
 possibility and potential of these technologies that either fully understa=
nd or address this other, more critical potentially damaging "human relatio=
nship" learned result.</span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old =
style', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; bac=
kground-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><d=
iv style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transpa=
rent; font-style: normal; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', tim=
es, serif; ">As a teacher watching it happen with children over the last 30=
 - 35 years, (plenty of data/research on this especially with young and ado=
lescent boys who spent the most time online/gaming (<a href=3D"http://www.t=
ed.com/talks/zimchallenge.html">http://www.ted.com/talks/zimchallenge.html<=
/a>)), I have never seen this adequately addressed? The "TEF" has tried to =
do so, directly in this "Transformative Education" Principle:</div><div
 style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color=
: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style:=
 normal; "><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new y=
ork', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color:=
 transparent; "><span style=3D"font-style: normal; ">TEF Principle 11: </sp=
an><span style=3D"font-style: italic;">Use of Technology for Greater Connec=
tion not Alienation</span></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old sty=
le', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; backgr=
ound-color: transparent; "><span style=3D"font-style: normal; ">Transformat=
ive education should utilize technology in a manner that does not impede bu=
t enhances the education of children and enables </span><span style=3D"font=
-style: italic;">Transformative</span> Education, that cannot be delivered =
in any other manner.</div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', '=
new
 york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-colo=
r: transparent; font-style: italic; "><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: =
'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-si=
ze: 16px; background-color: transparent; ">This is reiterated in the TEF Pr=
inciples by the questions and concerns TEF raises about the dominating "STE=
M" (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) education focus so heavily p=
romoted in the US over the last couple of decades, and now being exported g=
lobally by the US corporate-education sector, the World Bank and the Brooki=
ngs Institute.</div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new yo=
rk', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: =
transparent; "><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'n=
ew york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-co=
lor: transparent; "><span style=3D"font-style: normal; ">Short answer then:
 &nbsp;I </span><span style=3D"font-style: italic;">am</span><span style=3D=
"font-style: normal; "> interested about learning more about "linked-date" =
myself, again can see its possibilities. &nbsp;But not </span><span style=
=3D"font-style: italic;">over</span> other far more needed understanding or=
 as a time/money/resource preference of "connectivity, skilled communicatio=
n and necessary linking" in human to human relationships themselves. &nbsp;=
</div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, se=
rif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; f=
ont-style: normal; "><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old styl=
e', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; backgro=
und-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">I have found these are the fa=
r more important issues to understand and resolve, especially in education.=
 &nbsp;As I have seen it's lack all over, as a primary negative effect of n=
ot
 having these skill sets of "connectivity and communication" understood and=
 developed first.</div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new=
 york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-colo=
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54"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', t=
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arent; font-style: normal; " class=3D"yui_3_7_2_94_1386498363075_154">Hope =
that answers your question, even if somewhat ambiguously? :-)</div><div sty=
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tyle=3D"font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size=
: 12pt; "> <div
 dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dante-Gabryell Monson &lt;dante.=
monson at gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></=
b> p2p-foundation &lt;p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org&gt; <br> <b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:5=
0 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [P2P-F] =
Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its poten=
tials ? Quick survey - Thanks !<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_cont=
ainer"><br>
<div id=3D"yiv758513667"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>What would be your answer ? =
( reply on this list or in private to me )<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>=
A ) Interested in ( getting to know more about ) its potentials</b></div><d=
iv><b>B ) Not interested</b></div>
<div><br></div><div>and</div><div><br></div><div><b>1 ) Never heard of <a r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link=
ed_data">Linked Data</a></b></div><div><b>2 ) Know about it</b></div><div><=
b>3 ) Actively researching <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ht=
tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linked_data">Linked Data</a> applications ( in s=
upport of p2p 4 commons ? )</b><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>( or whatever other replies you wish to give )</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>//</div><div><br></div><div>Context of my question :=
</div><div><br></div><div>Michel noted that in his view Linked Data has not=
 been a topic with much interest on the p2pf related forums.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>I wish to understand if this is simply because no=
t many of us know about Linked Data, and its potentials ?</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Or is it simply because it seemed too complex or technical to bring=
 it up on this specific list ?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I know some of us are working on Linked Data applicatio=
ns,</div><div>including in support of Sharing Economy applications.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>I personally have been interested in some of its applicat=
ions for a few years, without being a programmer. &nbsp;I collaborated with=
 a programmer over the last years, to explore some of the approaches that c=
an be taken to create certain applications.</div>
<div><br></div><div>///</div><div><br></div><div>The first aim I have with =
this email is to have some kind of quick , hopefully sufficiently represent=
ative set of replies. &nbsp;It does not have to be on the public list - you=
 can also reply to me in private if you like.</div>
<div><br></div><div>From there on, I wish to open up another thread to furt=
her explain what Linked Data can be used for with those of us who may have =
explored the topic and may see potential in supporting such research as to =
manifest them into certain applications, in support of , for example, p2p c=
ommons oriented political economies.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cordially,</div><div>Dante</div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div></div>
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