[P2P-F] Advice re reputation metrics

Sun Sep 23 14:01:00 CEST 2012

Robin, I noticed that your background is sociology. Is that correct? Mine
is math and computer science.

In Computer science much effort has been put in providing relative, good
information. Some of those efforts have tried to use trust. From
a mathematical point of view, any recomendation system is good as long as
its predictability is good, if the recommendations it provides
are considered usefull inforamation. This is easy to test and benchmark.
(this is a good reference www.trustlet.org )

How is trust related to information?  Even if the reasons for the creations
of trust are complex and should be studied by sociologists, trusts main
reason of existence
in my opinion is the reduction of complexity of information.
In that context someone cannot study trust without studying the effects of
trust, the propagation of information.

The main problem with computer scientists these days is that they are hired
by companies that want to make money. In that context, I dont know
of any research that tries to study the effect on trust between people and
the behavioral changes that are the results of reputation/recommendation
systems.
Another reason for that, one could say is that computer scientists luck the
skills to do so.

Computer aided information propagation through trust is a very new field
but it has a lot of potential. How can local trust, ie trust between
friends be used to provide global properties in the information space and
how these global properties give incentive to people to create local trust
bonds?

One community that tries to use trust in such a way is
ripple<http://ripple-project.org/>
.
My project which is a forkable wikipedia is another.

Both are quite new. I , for example, am stuck to programming the
infrastructure and dont have a lot of time for theoretical work.

If you want more information, join the ripple discussion group. I ll be
happy to answer you any more questions.

2012/9/23 joseph orlando <adaz829 at gmail.com>
>
>
> Reputation metric makes me squirm.  Any form of Scientific Method and I
> mean 'Form" that is attempted is dubious at best, and will fail to garner
> results.  The existential chit chat with colleagues may be more useful.
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Joseph
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Denis Postle <d.postle at btinternet.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hi Robin,
>> I don't know how you would apply it to complementary currencies but
>> various versions of the arrangements you outline have been in place for 17
>> years in The Independent Practitioner Network [IPN] <http://i-p-n.org/>that I belong to in the UK. Smaller groups than you mention, 5-8, meet
>> every six weeks or so. Their task is get to know each other well enough to
>> be able to 'stand by' their work with clients (a reputation 'metric'?). For
>> me the strong version of this derives from 'self and peer assessment'<http://www.human-inquiry.com/asre.htm>based on a list of mutually agreed criteria, which is what you seem to be
>> suggesting.
>>
>> I have written about this extensively, see my forthcoming book Therapy
>> Futures <http://www.pccs-books.co.uk/products/therapy-futures/#> and
>> previously Regulating the psychological therapies.<http://www.pccs-books.co.uk/products/regulating-the-psychological-therapies-from-taxonomy-to-taxidermy/#.UF63CVEpXnj>
>>
>> In my experience your assumption...
>>
>> ... that self-determination, that is, autonomy (intrinsic motivation),
>> relatedness and competence is vital for social justice where for
>> individuals to be self-determining, everyone else must be self-determining.
>>
>> ...is very sound.
>>
>> A critical other dimension is that the distribution of power is
>> constantly under scrutiny, ie that dominance and subordination are
>> eliminated. This doesn't mean that hierarchies of experience and skill are
>> eliminated but that decision making is consensual. A tough task this since
>> domination often seems to me to be in the grain of the times.
>>
>> I hope this helps
>> Denis
>> denisATpostle.net
>>
>> On 23/09/2012 01:00, robin wrote:
>>
>>  Hi All
>>
>> I am researching (via a PhD with the University of Tasmania) the idea of
>> a reputation metric as a currency in a complementary currency project to
>> test whether it would increase trust and other prosocial behaviours in
>> local communities but most importantly to scale up trust between people
>> that don’t know each other. What ideas do people have about how you would
>> structure a reputation metric in practice? My vague ideas at the moment are
>> that you could have resilience circles, small groups of 20 to 30 people who
>> would meet once a month. They would act as support for each other, but also
>> the group would allocate a score for individuals over the previous month
>> based on set criteria for how each have exchanged with other people whether
>> in the group or with others in different groups against the criteria which
>> would attempt to vaguely measure autonomy, competence and relatedness. My
>> research is based on the assumption that self-determination, that is,
>> autonomy (intrinsic motivation), relatedness and competence is vital for
>> social justice where for individuals to be self-determining, everyone else
>> must be self-determining.
>>
>>  Any advice appreciated, eg are there are other groups that I could this
>> to that might be relevant? Do I need to supply more information?
>> Thanks & regards
>> Robin
>>
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