[P2P-F] Fwd: Contributing to ? : Tribler - P2P Bartercast reputation system + Bandwidth-as-a-currency ( presentation at Stanford )

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

FYI ...

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From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: <Coalition> Contributing to ? : Tribler - P2P Bartercast
reputation system + Bandwidth-as-a-currency ( presentation at Stanford )
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Thanks Dan-Eric for the feedback.

They are also apparently hiring people for academic research

tribler.org/jobs

I also suggest this pdf related to the video presentation :

"*Cyber collectivism:*
*Transforming Media and Money"*

*
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v36.pdf
*

I see potential parallels and synergies with the catalyst map development (
cc : Tim Rayner )

http://www.rhok.org/problems/catalyst-map

especially when combined with another project, Netention :

presentation :
http://automenta.com/netention ( also see open source code , and
combination with its GSS mapping )

as to ultimately have a distributed system at every layer ** of such a
system for emergent collective intelligence.


*** Further Notes :*
*
*
*including ultimately, at its base / physical infrastructure, the potential
for additional solutions, such as a currently existing mobile wireless mesh
application using android powered smartphones ? *
*
*
*https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject&hl=en*<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject&hl=en>
*
*
*( and more on this
forum<http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/could-peernet-be-separate-from?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A46320>
regarding
links to its open source development )*
*
*
*But also at other layers : semantic web protocols, IEML as meaning
creating grammars , enabling emergent forms of graphs through a combination
of human computation and AI, enabling access to distributed databases
providing large contexts from which queries can be operated, while using
distributed communication protocol layers such as the 4th generation
Torrent approach of the Tribler client, the QMedia microblogging solution,
and other pieces of such larger puzzle...*
*
*
*facilitating the emergence of alternative resource allocation systems on
top of such infrastructures and protocols,*
*which can use the metadata generated as currency for emergent forms of
self-governance and 4th order cybernetics ?*

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Dan-Eric Archer
<daneric.archer at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks for the share, interesting stuff.
>
> He's mentioning our bank, JAK, at around 8 min!
>
> //D-E
>
>
>
> 2012/9/16 Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
>
>> *I recommend watching this presentation given by Johan Pauwelse* ( Delf
>> University of Technology - http://pds.twi.tudelft.nl/~pouwelse/ ;
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/peer2peer )
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQiLaKdzD0E&feature=g-all-esi
>>  *
>> *
>> *- Hi Johan ! I hope we can connect our networks and find paths for
>> collaboration. This email is sent to a broad audience of people I have been
>> in touch with, in cc and in bcc, who are active** in a combination of
>> environments including ngo's , academic research, open source software
>> projects, ... with **often trans-disciplinary approaches, including
>> Artificial Intelligence, study of P2P distributed approaches, Complementary
>> Currencies and Alternative Resource Allocation Information Systems, ...*
>> *I am using the introduction to your work to get us inter-connected.
>> Feel free to redirect to any more appropriate conversation space (
>> mailinglist ? I tried *http://forum.tribler.org*/*<http://forum.tribler.org/>
>> * , yet even using TOR I do not manage to access the forum. )*
>>
>> *The video presentation given in May 2012 converges and implements ideas
>> some of us discussed or are working on,*
>> *and believe it can open up further collaboration amongst us based on
>> our current work.*
>>
>> //
>>
>> I am very glad to realize there is ( advanced ? ) research on the topic (
>> with EU funding ), and potential for collaboration ?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribler
>>
>> http://dl.tribler.org/
>>
>> http://tribler.org
>>
>> I see a lot of potential synergies and potential combinations of
>> technologies and protocols,
>> at various levels.
>>
>> Including in the way meaning is built and shared in distributed databases
>> ,
>> including a potential to use Semantic Web Vocabularies, IEML grammar and
>> algebra - http://www.ieml.org/spip.php?rubrique51&lang=en - ,
>> ... to define broader contexts and facilitate choice regarding
>> transactions, their conditions and interdependencies , hence also enabling
>> the design and creation, through its usage, of various kinds of metadata ,
>> which can be re-used as currency ?
>>
>> Some of these approaches being considered or integrated into the
>> development of Netention / GSS :
>> http://www.automenta.com/netention
>>  ( as for Dante's personal vision for potential using such approach :
>> http://sharewiki.org/en/Transaction_Graphs )
>>
>> but also parallels with other projects some of us are involved in,
>> such as the current developments related to a european funded partnership
>> around Cyclos ( cc: Leander / New Economics Foundation bcc: Edgar )
>>
>> http://project.cyclos.org
>>
>> and other projects such as http://communityforge.org - mutual credit
>> used within communities ( cc: Tim, Matthew ) ; http://metacurrency.org/ (
>> cc: Arthur and Eric )  , ...
>>
>> ///
>>
>> From here on, I hope to be able to collaborate on various layers enabling
>> such distributed system.
>> Cordially, from Brussels,
>> Dante
>> http://hitchwiki.org/en/Dante
>>
>>
>> ///
>>
>> more related to the video presentation :
>>
>>
>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CwpMER4HgWkJ:www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v33.pdf+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&lr=lang_en%7Clang_fr
>>
>> *note : he makes a parallel with what I identify as the Swedish JAK bank
>> ? :
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAK_Members_Bank*
>>
>>
>> http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/120530.html
>> *
>> *
>> *About the talk:*
>>
>> We aim for a more virtuous society by transforming media and money. Our
>> ideology-driven methodology is replacing speculation, volatility and greed
>> with cooperation, stability and rewarding of goodness. Our first goal is
>> creating a smartphone-based infrastructure which is capable of withstanding
>> all known government attacks on media freedom and privacy. Second, based on
>> this self-organizing infrastructure we are designing our bank-of-bits,
>> aiming to alter the essence of capitalism (rich get richer) by abolishing
>> compound interest rates and facilitation safe zero-cost money transfers
>> plus lending.
>>
>> During this talk the first prototype will be unveiled of our
>> attack-resilient QMedia app for microblogging. QMedia goal for future
>> versions is news dissemination from a single smartphone to an audience of
>> millions in the form of microblogging, enriched with pictures and streaming
>> video which is guarded against all known forms of government censorship
>> such as cyberspace sabotage, digital eavesdropping, infiltration, fraud,
>> Internet kill switches and especially lawyer-based attacks. We hope new
>> Open Source developers will join our Internet-deployed project and help
>> realize our QMedia goal for the end of 2012: building next-generation
>> anonymity technology, founded on social networking, traffic hiding and a
>> global reputation system.
>>
>> For over a decade Delft University of Technology has been measuring and
>> building P2P systems, aided by millions of Euros in research funding from
>> the European Union and Dutch government. We are continuously improving our
>> own attack-resilient sharing software called Tribler. With one million
>> downloads, Tribler provides us with vital behavioral feedback of novel
>> algorithms. Tribler is not dependent and completely decoupled from
>> unreliable servers such as DNS servers, web servers, swarm trackers and
>> access portals. Using fully self-organising P2P technology we aim to create
>> an overlay which is unbreakable: the only way to take it down is to take
>> the Internet down.
>>
>> We dream of transforming media and money with five innovations we have
>> developed within Tribler:
>>
>>    1. The Libswift P2P engine,
>>    2. Dispersy elastic database,
>>    3. Bartercast reputation system,
>>    4. bandwidth-as-a-currency resource based cybercurrency, and
>>    5. the Skynet V0.1 self-organizing and self-learning Artificial
>>    Intelligence engine (joined work University of Szeged) with a very limited
>>    form of self-awareness.
>>
>> Stanford EE Computer Systems Colloquium
>> 4:15PM, Wednesday, May 30, 2012
>> Skilling Auditorium, Stanford Campus http://ee380.stanford.edu
>>
>> Tribler: 4th generation peer-to-peer technology
>>
>> Johan Pouwelse
>> Delft University of Technology
>>
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