<div class="gmail_quote"><br>FYI ...<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Dante-Gabryell Monson</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dante.monson@gmail.com" target="_blank">dante.monson@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:52 PM<br>Subject: Re: <Coalition> Contributing to ? : Tribler - P2P Bartercast reputation system + Bandwidth-as-a-currency ( presentation at Stanford )<br>To: <a href="mailto:coalition@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">coalition@googlegroups.com</a>, <a href="mailto:global-survival@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">global-survival@googlegroups.com</a>, <a href="mailto:econowmix@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">econowmix@googlegroups.com</a>, <a href="mailto:opencc@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">opencc@googlegroups.com</a><br>
<br><br>Thanks Dan-Eric for the feedback.<div><br></div><div>They are also apparently hiring people for academic research</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://tribler.org/jobs" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">tribler.org/jobs</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">�</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I also suggest this pdf related to the video presentation :</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">"</span><b style="color:rgb(33,0,0);font-family:Times">Cyber collectivism:</b></div>
<div style="color:rgb(33,0,0);font-family:Times"><b>Transforming Media and Money"</b></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div><div><span><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif" size="1"><i><a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v36.pdf" target="_blank">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v36.pdf</a></i></font></span></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I see potential parallels and synergies with the catalyst map development ( cc : Tim Rayner )�</font></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><a href="http://www.rhok.org/problems/catalyst-map" target="_blank">http://www.rhok.org/problems/catalyst-map</a></div><div><br></div><div>especially when combined with another project, Netention :</div>
<div><br></div><div>presentation :�</div><div><a href="http://automenta.com/netention" target="_blank">http://automenta.com/netention</a> ( also see open source code , and combination with its GSS mapping )</div><div><br>
</div><div>as to ultimately have a distributed system at every layer ** of such a system for emergent collective intelligence.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><i><font size="1">** Further Notes :</font></i></div><div><i><font size="1"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">including ultimately, at its base / physical infrastructure, the potential for additional solutions, such as a currently existing mobile wireless mesh application using android powered smartphones ?�</font></i></div>
<div><i><font size="1"><br></font></i></div><div><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject&hl=en" target="_blank"><i><font size="1">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.servalproject&hl=en</font></i></a></div>
<div><i><font size="1"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">( <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/could-peernet-be-separate-from?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A46320" target="_blank">and more on this forum</a>�regarding links to its open source development )</font></i></div>
<div><i><font size="1"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">But also at other layers : semantic web protocols, IEML as meaning creating grammars , enabling emergent forms of graphs through a combination of human computation and AI, enabling access to distributed databases providing large contexts from which queries can be operated, while using distributed communication protocol layers such as the 4th generation Torrent approach of the Tribler client, the QMedia microblogging solution, and other pieces of such larger puzzle...</font></i></div>
<div><i><font size="1"><br></font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">facilitating the emergence of alternative resource allocation systems on top of such infrastructures and protocols,</font></i></div><div><i><font size="1">which can use the metadata generated as currency for emergent forms of self-governance and 4th order cybernetics ?</font></i></div>
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<div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Dan-Eric Archer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daneric.archer@gmail.com" target="_blank">daneric.archer@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks for the share, interesting stuff.�<div><br></div><div>He's mentioning our bank, JAK, at around 8 min!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>//D-E</font></span><div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/9/16 Dante-Gabryell Monson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dante.monson@gmail.com" target="_blank">dante.monson@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><b>I recommend watching this presentation given by Johan Pauwelse</b> ( Delf University of Technology -�<a href="http://pds.twi.tudelft.nl/~pouwelse/" target="_blank">http://pds.twi.tudelft.nl/~pouwelse/</a>�;�<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/peer2peer" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/peer2peer</a>�)�<div>
<br></div><div><div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQiLaKdzD0E&feature=g-all-esi" style="font-size:large" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQiLaKdzD0E&feature=g-all-esi</a></div></div>
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<i><br></i></div><div><i><font color="#000099">- Hi Johan ! I hope we can connect our networks and find paths for collaboration. This email is sent to a broad audience of people I have been in touch with, in cc and in bcc, who are active</font></i><i><font color="#000099">�in a combination of environments including ngo's , academic research, open source software projects, ... with�</font></i><i><font color="#000099">often trans-disciplinary approaches, including Artificial Intelligence, study of P2P distributed approaches, Complementary Currencies and Alternative Resource Allocation Information Systems, ...</font></i></div>
<div><i><font color="#000099">I am using the introduction to your work to get us inter-connected. Feel free to redirect to any more appropriate conversation space ( mailinglist ? I tried�</font></i><a href="http://forum.tribler.org/" target="_blank">http://forum.tribler.org<font color="#000099"><i>/</i></font></a><font color="#000099"><i>�, yet even using TOR I do not manage to access the forum. )</i></font></div>
<div><div><br></div><div><b>The video presentation given in May 2012 converges and implements ideas some of us discussed or are working on,</b><div><b>and believe it can open up further collaboration amongst us based on our current work.</b></div>
</div><div><br></div><div><div>//</div><div><br></div><div>I am very glad to realize there is ( advanced ? ) research on the topic ( with EU funding ), and potential for collaboration ?</div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribler" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribler</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://dl.tribler.org/" target="_blank">http://dl.tribler.org/</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://tribler.org" target="_blank">http://tribler.org</a></div><div><br></div><div>I see a lot of potential synergies and potential combinations of technologies and protocols,</div>
<div>at various levels. ��</div><div><br></div><div>Including in the way meaning is built and shared in distributed databases ,</div><div>including a potential to use Semantic Web Vocabularies, IEML grammar and algebra -�<a href="http://www.ieml.org/spip.php?rubrique51&lang=en" target="_blank">http://www.ieml.org/spip.php?rubrique51&lang=en</a>�-�,�</div>
<div>... to define broader contexts and facilitate choice regarding transactions, their conditions and interdependencies , hence also enabling the design and creation, through its usage, of various kinds of metadata , which can be re-used as currency ?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Some of these approaches�being considered or integrated into the development of Netention / GSS :</div><div><a href="http://www.automenta.com/netention" target="_blank">http://www.automenta.com/netention</a></div>
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( as for Dante's personal vision for potential using such approach :�<a href="http://sharewiki.org/en/Transaction_Graphs" target="_blank">http://sharewiki.org/en/Transaction_Graphs</a>�)</div><div><br></div><div>but also parallels with other projects some of us are involved in,</div>
<div>such as the current developments related to a european funded partnership�</div><div>around Cyclos ( cc: Leander / New Economics Foundation bcc: Edgar )�</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://project.cyclos.org/" target="_blank">http://project.cyclos.org</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>and other projects such as <a href="http://communityforge.org" target="_blank">http://communityforge.org</a> - mutual credit used within communities ( cc: Tim, Matthew ) ;�<a href="http://metacurrency.org/" target="_blank">http://metacurrency.org/</a>�( cc: Arthur and Eric )� , ...</div>
<div><br></div><div>///</div><div><br></div><div>From here on, I hope to be able to collaborate on various layers enabling such distributed system.</div><div>Cordially, from Brussels,</div><div>Dante</div><div><a href="http://hitchwiki.org/en/Dante" target="_blank">http://hitchwiki.org/en/Dante</a></div>
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<div><br></div><div>more related to the video presentation :�</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CwpMER4HgWkJ:www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v33.pdf+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&lr=lang_en%7Clang_fr" target="_blank">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CwpMER4HgWkJ:www.tribler.org/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/P2P-Collective/tribler_stanford_talk_may2012__v33.pdf+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&lr=lang_en%7Clang_fr</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><i>note : he makes a parallel with what I identify as the Swedish JAK bank ? :<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAK_Members_Bank" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAK_Members_Bank</a></i></div>
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<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/120530.html" target="_blank">http://www.stanford.edu/class/ee380/Abstracts/120530.html</a></div><div><b style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium"><br>
</b></div><div><b style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">About the talk:</b></div><div><p style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">We aim for a more virtuous society by transforming media and money. Our ideology-driven methodology is replacing speculation, volatility and greed with cooperation, stability and rewarding of goodness. Our first goal is creating a smartphone-based infrastructure which is capable of withstanding all known government attacks on media freedom and privacy. Second, based on this self-organizing infrastructure we are designing our bank-of-bits, aiming to alter the essence of capitalism (rich get richer) by abolishing compound interest rates and facilitation safe zero-cost money transfers plus lending.</p>
<p style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">During this talk the first prototype will be unveiled of our attack-resilient QMedia app for microblogging. QMedia goal for future versions is news dissemination from a single smartphone to an audience of millions in the form of microblogging, enriched with pictures and streaming video which is guarded against all known forms of government censorship such as cyberspace sabotage, digital eavesdropping, infiltration, fraud, Internet kill switches and especially lawyer-based attacks. We hope new Open Source developers will join our Internet-deployed project and help realize our QMedia goal for the end of 2012: building next-generation anonymity technology, founded on social networking, traffic hiding and a global reputation system.</p>
<p style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">For over a decade Delft University of Technology has been measuring and building P2P systems, aided by millions of Euros in research funding from the European Union and Dutch government. We are continuously improving our own attack-resilient sharing software called Tribler. With one million downloads, Tribler provides us with vital behavioral feedback of novel algorithms. Tribler is not dependent and completely decoupled from unreliable servers such as DNS servers, web servers, swarm trackers and access portals. Using fully self-organising P2P technology we aim to create an overlay which is unbreakable: the only way to take it down is to take the Internet down.</p>
<p style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">We dream of transforming media and money with five innovations we have developed within Tribler:</p><ol style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">
<li>The Libswift P2P engine,</li><li>Dispersy elastic database,</li><li>Bartercast reputation system,</li><li>bandwidth-as-a-currency resource based cybercurrency, and</li><li>the Skynet V0.1 self-organizing and self-learning Artificial Intelligence engine (joined work University of Szeged) with a very limited form of self-awareness.</li>
</ol><div><center style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium"><h3 style="text-align:left">Stanford EE Computer Systems Colloquium<br></h3></center><center style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">
<h5><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:medium">4:15PM, Wednesday, May 30, 2012�</span></div><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-size:medium">Skilling Auditorium, Stanford Campus�</span><a href="http://ee380.stanford.edu/" style="font-size:medium" target="_blank">http://ee380.stanford.edu</a></div>
</h5></center><p style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium"></p><h4 style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium"><center style="text-align:left">Tribler: 4th generation peer-to-peer technology�<br>
</center></h4><p style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium"></p><h5 style="font-family:'Times New Roman'"><center><div style="text-align:left">Johan Pouwelse�</div><div style="text-align:left">
Delft University of Technology</div></center></h5></div></div><span><font color="#888888">
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