[P2P-F] Fwd: Gerald Celente - Society Is Breaking Down

Michel Bauwens michel at p2pfoundation.net
Thu Sep 22 18:50:50 CEST 2011


agreed, Celene exhibits a simplistic understanding of democracy here ..

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:52 AM, hellekin <hellekin at cepheide.org> wrote:

> Excerpts from Michel Bauwens's message of Sun Sep 18 16:57:04 +0000 2011:
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:01 PM
> > Subject: Gerald Celente - Society Is Breaking Down
> > To: econowmix at googlegroups.com
> >
> >
> > Video :
> >
> >
> http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/gerald-celente-things-going-much-worse-society-breaking-131030651.html
> >
> >
> http://www.declineoftheempire.com/2011/09/gerald-celente-society-is-breaking-down.html
> >
> *** From the video:
>
> "We believe there's a solution by the way.
> We say direct democracy: let the people vote.
> If we can bank online, we can vote online."
>
> Warning: that is a very simplistic way of characterizing direct democracy.
>  The previous experience in electronic voting has shown how
> easy it is to falsify the results when the system is not secure.  As you
> may know, security is a trade-off between the value of what
> one wants to protect, and the perceived value another is ready to invest to
> breach that security.  Moreover, voting is only a single
> piece of the process, and probably the least of it: when consensus is
> reached, voting becomes a formality.  Direct democracy is more
> about reaching that consensus.
>
> To quote David D. Clarke:
>
>  We reject: kings, presidents and voting.
>  We believe in: rough consensus and running code.
>
> ==
> hk
>
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