[P2P-F] important advance in network theory approaches

[Samuel Rose]

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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Michel Bauwens
<michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
> any biblio for guidance?
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>> > thanks Sam,
>> >
>> > this may be the case, but I see a lot of network theory literature, for
>> > example the much cited Reed's law, which ignores human volition ..
>> >
>>
>> I can imagine. I think if you are interested in network theory, it is
>> definitely worth knowing the complex systems thinkers from throughout
>> the 1980's to present (if you do not already). Lots of great useful
>> work there.
>>
>> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> >> <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
>> >> > Dear TOmas,
>> >> >
>> >> > This is quite important in my opinion with network theory finally
>> >> > including
>> >> > human volition and abandoning reductionism,
>> >> >
>> >> > I really hope you can look into this for discussion at our blog,
>> >> >
>> >> > see http://gfbertini.wordpress.com/2011/09/03/wisdom-about-crowds/ ;
>> >> > http://www.economist.com/node/18584096?story_id=18584096&fsrc=rss
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  Existing models of crowd behaviour do just that. They treat moving
>> >> > masses
>> >> > of humanity as though they were fluids. This works, up to a point.
>> >> > But
>> >> > it
>> >> > often fails to predict the changes that happen as a crowd’s density
>> >> > increases and its movement becomes chaotic. That is why Mehdi
>> >> > Moussaid
>> >> > of
>> >> > Paul Sabatier University, in Toulouse, and his colleagues have made a
>> >> > radical innovation. Instead of treating the individual human beings
>> >> > in a
>> >> > crowd as if they were molecules, they have treated them as if they
>> >> > were
>> >> > human beings. They have, in other words, given them volition. Of
>> >> > course,
>> >> > the
>> >> > objective of someone in a moving crowd is usually fairly simple—to
>> >> > get
>> >> > somewhere and then stay there. But it is an objective, nevertheless.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Unless I am really missing something, this is absolutely not anything
>> >> new in the world of network sciences and complex systems
>> >> science/modeling/theory. In fact, practically every agent based
>> >> complex systems model applies simple rules to the agents and then runs
>> >> the model to see what will happen. This goes all the way back to John
>> >> Holland, Robert Axelrod, and others who pioneered complex systems
>> >> models. Read the article on The Economist itself to see why I am
>> >> having this reaction:
>> >> http://www.economist.com/node/18584096?story_id=18584096&fsrc=rss
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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