[P2P-F] Libertarians
mp
mp at aktivix.org
Thu Oct 20 09:43:31 CEST 2011
I finally understood this philosophy:
1: Me, me, me and mine.
2: If A fucks over B, C can rightfully fuck over them both: survival of
the fittest.
3: Let God sort them out.
On 19/10/11 04:25, Natalie Golovin wrote:
> The Declaration of Independence says the rights come from the Creator-thus
> human rights. But they're Secured by the State. The US scores pretty well
> regarding human rights. When abuses like slavery are targeted they have been
> addressed. Why not direct your anger at the many nations where human rights
> are at the disposition of the military or depend on one's gender or
> religion.
> And please stop romanticizing native peoples. At the time-all the
> tribes-including the invading European ones- engaged in shifting alliances&
> schemes to enrich their communities. The Europeans had better weapons. And
> since no one "owned" all that available land, and many of the tribes were
> nomadic-What right (Re: a previous mail) did the natives have to dominate
> it? The invaders came from crowded cities and were "homesteading."
> We're not getting anywhere with this dialogue-Why not switch gears to
> attacking CEO's& enabling bureaucrats& politicians-where we have "common"
> ground?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Carson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:48 PM
> To: P2P Foundation mailing list
> Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Libertarians
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Natalie Golovin<10natalie at cox.net> wrote:
>> Convoluted I�m a human citizen of the US which through its Constitution
>> grants its citizens a certain set of rights& privileges. It has 3
>> branches-Executive, Legislative& Judicial and a border that is
>> �generally�
>> respected and would be defended militarily if aggressively attacked. I
>> consider myself fortunate to be a citizen of a country that confers human
>> rights on its citizens- a rare thing. A human without a nation has no
>> rights-privileges or security.
>
> I believe I have my rights by nature of my birth as a human being, not
> as a result of their being "granted" or "conferred" by any government.
> The U.S. government, at most, recognizes -- or rather, pays lip
> service -- to these rights.
>
> And the wording of the Bill of Rights itself refers to "persons," not
> citizens, and has been widely understood since the beginning to
> require due process of law for all persons residing under the state's
> jurisdiction.
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