[P2P-F] Fwd: The False Defences Of Utopian Thought

Wed Nov 9 02:30:22 CET 2011

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Michel Bauwens <michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
> having lived in 3 (failed) communes myself, I would question any
> interpretation that only blames outside pressures ..

Michel:  The problem is that communes are voluntarist efforts,
lifestyle choices, that operate against the economic and material
currents of outside society.  Corporations have just as many dickheads
and narcissists in them as communes.  So why don't they go belly-up as
a result of normal human foibles?  The answer, I think, is that
structural conditions tip the balance in a particular direction.
Human society was organized primarily into  localized economies,
demographically stable communities, extended families, etc. --
basically the kind of stuff the commune movement tries to replicate,
against the spirit of the age -- and that pattern survived despite the
dickheadedness and narcissism of its human raw membership because the
state didn't have its thumb on the scale in favor of centralism and
hierarchy.

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