[P2P-F] CSPP, where is this project going?

[Michel Bauwens]

thanks for the perspective Athina, I'm glad that the project is progressing!

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k at gmail.com>wrote:

> Michel,
>
> To add to Mathieu's email.
>
> Obviously the journal is not a software type project to be releasing things
> as we go along different versions hoping people will improve or patch etc.
> It would be quite bizarre if we just published papers in the public side of
> the site before they are reviewed and ready to be read, debated etc. Not
> only bizarre but not respectful to the authors which submit their work.
>
> Also, this is a project built on consensus and dialogue and it does take
> time to achieve what people need/want. There isnt just one person dictating
> to others what to do in form of 'suggestions' or being the sole developer
> with a dozen highly skilled people to filter code through. It is quite
> different if you get me.
>
> I think Michel that you might have confused the journal with a blog or wiki
> where we ll just publish anything instantly. It takes time.
>
> I believe we are close to having an inaugural issue soon and I dont think
> the public cares how long it took or the internal debates, unless they are
> some kind of student researching the creation of journals or sth like that,
> in which case they can contact us to get the info or we can write a piece on
> that issue for your p2p blog if it is interesting to you in particular.
>
> If you would like to advertise the journal you are part of perhaps it d
>  pay to wait until it is actually published. Then any issues can be
> discussed then rather than preemptively.
>
> I am not sure as I said that it is interesting to people to hear about a
> journal which is not out yet. Sounds there arent enough news on p2p to me if
> thats whats new these days : )
>
> Cheers
>
> Athina
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>wrote:
>
>> Hi Michel
>>
>> Yeah, sometimes things take longer than you'd like - that's the problem
>> with volunteer projects I guess. We are currently finalising some long
>> research papers; we have two conference reports ready to go; when the
>> research papers are done - hopefully no more than a month now - we will
>> release all this at once and issue a final CFP.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you're hoping to achieve by this post - "shaking things
>> up" maybe? Obviously you should do what you feel but from my perspective it
>> would be more useful to hold off until we launch officially and then
>> re-publish on the P2P blog the ANT papers - something I suggested to you
>> back in January, if you remember.
>>
>> All other content is for the moment on the restricted part of our site -
>> you should normally have an account which enables you to check it out.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:29 am
>> Subject: CSPP, where is this project going?
>> To: p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>
>> Cc: Mathieu O'Neil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>, phoebe moore <
>> pvm.doc at gmail.com>, Athina Karatzogianni <athina.k at gmail.com>, nathaniel
>> tkacz <nathanieltkacz at gmail.com>
>>
>> > I'm publishing this on the 27th in the p2p blog:
>> >
>>
>> > Critical Studies in Peer Production: where is this project going?<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14831>
>> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens]
>> Michel Bauwens
>> >
>> 27th March 2011
>> >
>> >
>>
>> > By my own reckoning at least 18 months ago, a project was started to
>> build a scientific and theoretical journal<http://p2pfoundation.net/Critical_Studies_in_Peer_Production>to publish studies on peer production and P2P Theory.
>>
>> > Very quickly, it seems the original team focused on process, for
>> example coming up with an innovative open peer review process<http://cspp.oekonux.org/journal/peer-review>
>> .
>>
>> > However, it seems really strange that after so much time, the site is
>> nearly empty of content, while at the same time, we have been able to spot
>> 40 high quality essays, linked here <http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Essays>.
>> So we sincerely hope that CSPP will finally focus on content, which is so
>> richly available in the p2p research community.
>>
>> > One interesting item, unfortunately at this time, the only item, is a
>> very interesting debate on Actor-Network-Theory, see here<http://cspp.oekonux.org/debate/ant-power>
>> .
>>
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