[P2P-F] how to call the study of the economics of abundance?

[Michel Bauwens]

that is actually a very good and important point, i.e. we need an integral
approach that embraces both polarities instead of a ghetto for both ...

Michel

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Roberto Verzola <rverzola at gn.apc.org> wrote:

> While it is an interesting linguistic problem, I hope it doesn't lead to
> the opposite tendency to see everything exclusively from the lens of
> abundance. I think economics should be properly defined a study of
> *both* scarcity and abundance. It is the dynamics between these two
> opposites that determines the features of a particular economy.
>
> Greetings to all,
>
> Roberto
>
> Joseph Jackson wrote:
> > I tried initially to popularize the late Robert Levin's term
> > Agalmics:  http://www.openverse.com/~dtinker/agalmics.html
> > <http://www.openverse.com/%7Edtinker/agalmics.html>
> >
> > Have to think more about this...the idea of Extropy seems relevant
> > also.  We also have to think in terms of decision theory....choice
> > under abundance may not make sense because you can consume or enjoy
> > all the options.  Also, even when things are abundant if you have
> > limited or scare attention you'd still be operating under conventional
> > decision theory or utility optimizing parameters.  Thus we need to
> > distringuis Marco Economics/Macro Abundance in the Political Economy
> > sense from  micro-individual-decision/behavior.
> >
> > I think Economics of Abundance,  or Abundance Studies.    Post
> > Scarcity Economics,  Resource Based Economic.    Ecological Economics
> > (also see the Mars trilogy Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars)
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Michel Bauwens
> > <michelsub2004 at gmail.com <mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     see  below, suggestions very welcome,
> >
> >     Michel
> >
> >     On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
> >     <dante.monson at gmail.com <mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         :)
> >
> >         I notice on
> >
> >         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praxeology
> >
> >         /"Von Mises writes that *economics*
> >         <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics>*, the study of human
> >         choice under conditions of scarcity*, can be treated as a
> >         specialization of *praxeology, the study of all human action.*"/
> >
> >         ... it makes me wonder, *what would be called "the study of
> >         human choice under conditions of abundance"* ?
> >
> >         On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Patrick Anderson
> >         <agnucius at gmail.com <mailto:agnucius at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >             On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
> >             <dante.monson at gmail.com <mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com>>
> >             wrote:
> >             > I wonder how one would call direct action , transactions
> >             , and contracts
> >             > made by the people without a need for a representative,
> >             but with the
> >             > possibility for proxy voting which can be changed at any
> >             time in case one
> >             > would want others to take decisions for us instead of
> >             taking them oneself
> >
> >             I think http://Wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarchism might be one
> >             part of this answer,
> >             but would avoid claiming it is all we need because it does
> >             not mention the
> >             critical issue of "beneficial connectivity" that our
> >             societies now lack.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  -
> >     http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> >
> >     Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
> >     http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
> >
> >     Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens;
> >     http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens;
> >     http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> P2P Foundation - Mailing list
> http://www.p2pfoundation.net
> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
>



-- 
P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net

Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation

Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/p2p-foundation/attachments/20110307/77dc6aee/attachment.htm