[P2P-F] definitions of ( hybrid networked ) modes of governance and, economics

Thu Mar 3 13:01:21 CET 2011

for info, a typology at http://p2pfoundation.net/Democracy

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Sy <sytaffel at riseup.net> wrote:

> Democracy doesn't mean rule of the majority. Etymologically its meaning
> is the rule of the people. While common convention in representative
> democracies is that this means majority rules, this is only one kind of
> democratic system, and the one which historically was considered to be
> 'weak' democracy as allowing people to vote for a representative once
> every four or five years gives the people only a small degree of power
> to rule themselves.
>
> This was contrasted with 'strong' or direct forms of democracy where
> either the people were able to either manage their affairs without the
> need for representatives to mediate for them, or those representatives
> were only temporary and were able to be recalled at any time if people
> were unhappy with their actions.
>
> Consequently direct democracy has largely been associated with anarchist
> leaning groups, such as social centres, squats and co-ops. Frequently
> these groups opt to make decisions by consensus rather than majority
> based decisions as this includes all participants in a meaningful way
> and allows them to voice their objections to ideas rather than placing
> them within an outvoted (and thus silenced) minority.
>
>
> On 03/03/2011 06:06, p2p-foundation-request at lists.ourproject.org wrote:
> > From: Dante-Gabryell Monson<dante.monson at gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:05 AM
> > Subject: definitions of ( hybrid networked ) modes of governance and
> > economics
> > To:
> >
> >
> > In the following excerpt, starting at 378 seconds ( already marked in
> link
> > ),
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBBqM-ajoGI#t=378s
> >
> > it states the use of polling to inform "democracy" ( or, so called,
> > "representative democracy" ),
> > from information coming from a population that can make "rational"
> > decisions.
> >
> > I wonder how one would call direct action , transactions , and contracts
> > made by the people without a need for a representative, but with the
> > possibility for proxy voting which can be changed at any time in case one
> > would want others to take decisions for us instead of taking them oneself
> (
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_voting  ) .
> >
> > How would such form of economics and governance be called, when enabled
> in
> > hybrid forms of relational dynamics ?
> >
> > I guess not "direct democracy", as democracy is from the rule of the
> > majority.
> >
> > I guess "Panocracy" ?
> >
> > http://p2pfoundation.net/Panocracy
> >
> > A principle underlying systems of organisation that asserts that everyone
> > has the right to make and act on decisions about things that affect them
> and
> > that no one else has the right to take that away from them.
> >
> > or "Panarchy" ?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panarchy
> >
> > *?an inclusive, universal system of governance in which all may
> participate
> > meaningfully."*
>
>
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