[P2P-F] from city center occupations to assembles de barrios

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 13 16:11:12 CEST 2011 

Dear George,

once you get access to the blog as author,

you can see different articles planned for the next few days on these
topics:

see already my recent tags but especially

http://roarmag.org/2011/06/in-greece-days-of-unrest-and-hope/

http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2011/05/athens-decisions-of-popular-assembly-may-29/

http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2011/01/ideas-on-peoples-assemblies/



On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:52 PM, George Por <
george at community-intelligence.com> wrote:

> City-center occupations can work against dictatorships, in some cases, but
> they don't seem to be a sustainable strategy for radical social
> transformation.
>
> I heard that our Spanish friends started people's assemblies by
> neighborhoods. I'd love to learn more about them.
>
> George
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 13, 2011, at 1:32 PM, orsan at tie-netherlands.nl wrote:
>
> > hi all,
> >
> > I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated
> > a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that
> > in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts
> > the fire at the  european and the world levels, we may involve all
> > together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to
> > Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a
> > more coordinated glboal camaign.
> >
> > I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that
> > would give our message a global out reach.
> >
> > greetings,
> > Orsan
> >
> >
> > Quoting Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> thank you George!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou
> >> <georgepapani at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
> >>> http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
> >>>
> >>> George
> >>>
> >>> ???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
> >>>
> >>> thank you George,
> >>>
> >>> if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for
> forwarding!!
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou <
> >>> georgepapani at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with  EU and
> IMF
> >>>> for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they
> were
> >>>> not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people
> >>>> gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
> >>>>
> >>>> George
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? orsan at tie-netherlands.nl ??????:
> >>>>
> >>>>> To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach
> out
> >>>>> poeple and create a ripple effect!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> great Orsan!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That would be great!
> >>>>>>> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created
> about
> >>>>>>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-for-a-global
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> individuals ...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her
> >>>>>>>> storify's,
> >>>>>>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already
> >>>>>>>> retweeted
> >>>>>>>> amaia's story ...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used
> storify to
> >>>>>>>> keep
> >>>>>>>> track of developments in your own area,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level',
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a
> >>>>>>>> weekly
> >>>>>>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ??
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the
> word?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Michel
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos <
> >>>>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on
> >>>>>>>> 11.11.11
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a
> great
> >>>>>>>>> idea.
> >>>>>>>>> If
> >>>>>>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not,
> they
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough
> time
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> globally link up and try.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow
> just
> >>>>>>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many
> who
> >>>>>>>>> organise
> >>>>>>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out
> >>>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where
> to
> >>>>>>>>> go
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea
> either.
> >>>>>>>>> Many
> >>>>>>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and
> >>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so
> they
> >>>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>> try).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like
> thunder
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> stike
> >>>>>>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where
> is
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> process headed to!
> >>>>>>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia,
> >>>>>>>>>> Egypt,
> >>>>>>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a
> >>>>>>>>>> harmonised
> >>>>>>>>>> city
> >>>>>>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally?
> >>>>>>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an
> >>>>>>>>>> critical
> >>>>>>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an
> action.
> >>>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> need to link up!
> >>>>>>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar
> global
> >>>>>>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> take care of yourself out there, Chris!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, chris at cataspanglish.com <
> >>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber
> bullets
> >>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <
> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff
> to so
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could
> >>>>>>>>>>>> come
> >>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started
> "being a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pain"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only
> hoping
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a
> couple of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> days
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised
> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be
> hope
> >>>>>>>>>>>> o.O
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Chris,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsement,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support
> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> evolving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pointwoman, in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> updates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they
> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michel
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> dictatorship
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> options
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish
> movement is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have
> found a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> format
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process
> towards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> deep
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy.
> It's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> early
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> days,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be
> politically
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> schooled
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point
> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen <<
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Catalunya
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> celebration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding
> streets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges
> visible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> campers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Chris Pinchen*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish
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