[P2P-F] UROs are on the air

orsan at tie-netherlands.nl orsan at tie-netherlands.nl
Mon Jun 13 14:32:00 CEST 2011 

hi all,

I just wrote to Mayo Fuster Morell, from Barcelona, who has initiated  
a webpage for the 19th june call for a #globalrevolution saying that  
in case the 19th of june would not spread the revolution sparks starts  
the fire at the  european and the world levels, we may involve all  
together -p2p community, networks like transform! eu, TNI, Seaatle to  
Brussles, Our World is not for sale, and who ever wnats to join for a  
more coordinated glboal camaign.

I have tried to contact to the Yes Man for inventing a trick that  
would give our message a global out reach.

greetings,
Orsan


Quoting Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:

> thank you George!
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou
> <georgepapani at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
>> http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
>>
>> George
>>
>> ???? 01/06/2011 10:43 ??, ?/? Michel Bauwens ??????:
>>
>> thank you George,
>>
>> if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou <
>> georgepapani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with  EU and IMF
>>> for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were
>>> not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people
>>> gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
>>>
>>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> ???? 29/05/2011 04:45 ??, ?/? orsan at tie-netherlands.nl ??????:
>>>
>>>> To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out
>>>> poeple and create a ripple effect!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>  great Orsan!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  That would be great!
>>>>>> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about
>>>>>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-for-a-global
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> individuals ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her
>>>>>>> storify's,
>>>>>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already
>>>>>>> retweeted
>>>>>>> amaia's story ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> track of developments in your own area,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level',
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a
>>>>>>> weekly
>>>>>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos <
>>>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on
>>>>>>> 11.11.11
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great
>>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> globally link up and try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just
>>>>>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who
>>>>>>>> organise
>>>>>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to
>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either.
>>>>>>>> Many
>>>>>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> try).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> stike
>>>>>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> process headed to!
>>>>>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia,
>>>>>>>>> Egypt,
>>>>>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a
>>>>>>>>> harmonised
>>>>>>>>> city
>>>>>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally?
>>>>>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an
>>>>>>>>> critical
>>>>>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action.
>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> need to link up!
>>>>>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global
>>>>>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  take care of yourself out there, Chris!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, chris at cataspanglish.com <
>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could
>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a
>>>>>>>>>>> pain"
>>>>>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of
>>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for
>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope
>>>>>>>>>>> o.O
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Dear Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following
>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsement,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this
>>>>>>>>>>>> evolving
>>>>>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as
>>>>>>>>>>>> pointwoman, in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular
>>>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can
>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market
>>>>>>>>>>>> dictatorship
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all
>>>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a
>>>>>>>>>>>> format
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what
>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards
>>>>>>>>>>>> deep
>>>>>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's
>>>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically
>>>>>>>>>>>> schooled
>>>>>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has
>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen <<
>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça
>>>>>>>>>>>> Catalunya
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football
>>>>>>>>>>>>> celebration
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> campers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Chris Pinchen*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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