[P2P-F] UROs are on the air

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 14:37:49 CEST 2011 

thank you George!

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:36 PM, George Papanikolaou
<georgepapani at gmail.com>wrote:

>  VOTE OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY OF SYNTAGMA SQUARE
> http://real-democracy.gr/en/vote-peoples-assembly-syntagma-square
>
> George
>
> Στις 01/06/2011 10:43 πμ, ο/η Michel Bauwens έγραψε:
>
> thank you George,
>
> if you see any english commentary on the movement, thanks for forwarding!!
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, George Papanikolaou <
> georgepapani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Apparently the Greek government will reach an agreement with  EU and IMF
>> for a new rescue loan. The basic reason is that they all realized they were
>> not at all ready to absorb a possible default. More than 50.000 people
>> gathered yesterday at Syntagma square.
>>
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/31/us-eurozone-idUSTRE74Q1YV20110531
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> Στις 29/05/2011 04:45 μμ, ο/η orsan at tie-netherlands.nl έγραψε:
>>
>>> To make use of a Yes Man style media action project in order to reach out
>>> poeple and create a ripple effect!
>>>
>>>
>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>  great Orsan!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  That would be great!
>>>>> I have already pasted acall on a new discussion group i created about
>>>>> Global P2P Revolution on p2p ning:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/group/peerlabour/forum/topics/anonymous-call-for-a-global
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Citeren Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I really think we should contribute to this as p2p collectives and
>>>>>
>>>>>> individuals ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really think that Amaia has found the right formula with her
>>>>>> storify's,
>>>>>> which we can easily embed in our blog, and Naomi Klein has already
>>>>>> retweeted
>>>>>> amaia's story ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what I propose is the following, i.e. that each of you used storify to
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> track of developments in your own area,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then we need one extra volunteer to do this on the 'global level',
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an alternative is to use a specific tag for this and I could do a
>>>>>> weekly
>>>>>> roundup of this global tag ... say Global-P2P-Revolution ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we can also use Peer Labour at Ning to discuss and spread the word?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Amaia Arcos <
>>>>>> amaia.arcos at googlemail.com
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The whole world peacefully rising against all that is unjust on
>>>>>> 11.11.11
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would send shivers down God's own spine (:P), I think it is a great
>>>>>>> idea.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> the momentum keeps going until then (and I don't see why not, they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> surely not going to make it easy for us) I guess we have enough time
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> globally link up and try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm up for anything, you can only try. And the idea of somehow just
>>>>>>> concentrating on linking up people makes sense. There are many who
>>>>>>> organise
>>>>>>> stuff but are not particularly that well aware of who else is out
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> and/or what else is being done. And having somewhere decent where to
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> see who is out there, doing what and when is not a bad idea either.
>>>>>>> Many
>>>>>>> find the internet disorienting in that there is too much data and
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> know how to search (or they have the idea that they don't and so they
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> try).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 15:43, <orsan at tie-netherlands.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Unindefined Revolutionary Objects (UROs) are appearing like thunder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> stike
>>>>>>>> around the world and occupying important city centers... where is
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> process headed to!
>>>>>>>> May be it is time to pool key people from Greece, UK, Tunusia,
>>>>>>>> Egypt,
>>>>>>>> Wisconsin, and Spain like you Amaia in order to forge for a
>>>>>>>> harmonised
>>>>>>>> city
>>>>>>>> center occupations in all G20 or even glibally?
>>>>>>>> You might have the right names Michel. We are entering into an
>>>>>>>> critical
>>>>>>>> time zone, I think the climate is getting ready for such an action.
>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> need to link up!
>>>>>>>> There are already several calls for world strike or similar global
>>>>>>>> uprising. One anaymous call suggests 11.11.11 for such uprising!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Citeren Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  take care of yourself out there, Chris!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, chris at cataspanglish.com <
>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  ok, the police have retreated from the Plaça firing rubber bullets
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>> air & it is occupied again, now without infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sent from my mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2011, at 12:53, Amaia Arcos <amaia.arcos at googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure, no worries, I'm in. What email address do I send stuff to so
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> don't end up spamming people unnecessarily?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Michel, to me this looks like something big could
>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> it. I'd never dreamt of what is happening when I started "being a
>>>>>>>>>> pain"
>>>>>>>>>> about the need to go out on May 15th in Spain. I was only hoping
>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>> decent turnout that day. Italy happily obliging within a couple of
>>>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> then Greece and then this #europeanrevolution being organised for
>>>>>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> a massive surprise. I thought Europe was dead, there might be hope
>>>>>>>>>> o.O
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 27 May 2011 09:24, Michel Bauwens < <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Dear Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in a short intro to a piece on spain, I wrote the following
>>>>>>>>>>> endorsement,
>>>>>>>>>>> so I think we should follow this very closely and support this
>>>>>>>>>>> evolving
>>>>>>>>>>> global movement to the best of our abilities,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you can be our point man, perhaps with Amaia as
>>>>>>>>>>> pointwoman, in
>>>>>>>>>>> Spain, I think her storyify format would be great for regular
>>>>>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I also copying vasilis and George in Greece, in the hope they can
>>>>>>>>>>> contribute stories about how this develops in Greece,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Michel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When people agree on what they don't want, i.e. a market
>>>>>>>>>>> dictatorship
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the hands of a financial predatory class, but are open-minded
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> future, what should they ask for?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The answer is very simply: true democracy, as this leaves all
>>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>> to create 'other worlds'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is why the relative indeterminacy of the Spanish movement is
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> bug, but a feature. It signals civil society forces have found a
>>>>>>>>>>> format
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> their protests, and a unifying platform, and this is why what
>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Spain is really Ground Zero for the start of a process towards
>>>>>>>>>>> deep
>>>>>>>>>>> transformation of our civilisation and political economy. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>>> just green shoots, and the new generations have to be politically
>>>>>>>>>>> schooled
>>>>>>>>>>> as they face obstacles and repression, but, the tipping point has
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> reached, and something new has blossomed in the world.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Chris Pinchen <<
>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> chris at cataspanglish.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Right now police are violenty evicting the camp in Plaça
>>>>>>>>>>> Catalunya
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  using
>>>>>>>>>>>> the excuse that they need to clean the square for a football
>>>>>>>>>>>> celebration
>>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow. People arriving are occupying the surrounding streets
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> being clubbed by riot police who do not have id badges visible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>> campers
>>>>>>>>>>>> are calling for more camps this evening
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Chris Pinchen*
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cataspanglish.com>http://cataspanglish.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://twitter.com/cataspanglish>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/cataspanglish
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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