[P2P-F] The Revolution Business - the staged "Arab Spring"

Mon Jun 13 01:45:51 CEST 2011

hi Mark

here's an example of why such theories are eminently reductionist ...

I could easily say that because your inaugural session was done in the
building of EnlighteNext that it was a front for Andrew Cohen and engineered
by them, but that wouldn't be true ...

SImilarly, because the US has a democracy discourse, some organisations that
fund democracy training, that doesn't mean that the Arab people, and the
youth that risked their lives, have no agency ...  It was a complex process
with multiple causes, including to the very end actually opposition from the
American government to the change ...

I attented to Mekong ICT training camps in video activism and such here in
thailand, funded by western liberal foundations, but attented by local
activists, most of them 'progressives' .. does that makes them tool of the
German state .. not at all, they look for what they can get, given the lack
of resources in that area here ... One has to be mindful of such 'gifts' of
course, but that doesn't mean there is a linear influence of such funding
and whatever would happen in the country,

Michel

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:27 AM, mark jagdev <markjagdev at gmail.com> wrote:

> Whatever the 'truth' maybe future (crowd/people) revolutions should be
> funded by the crowd i.e. crowdfunding? Not rely on state or private
> interests. Conspiracy theorists wont be able to make money or gain appeal
> from that kinda story will they?...
> Mark
>
>
> On 12 June 2011 08:30, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> orchestrated to the finest details hmmm ... glad they cracked that secret
>> to the unfolding of human history ... we can all go to sleep now, confident
>> in the knowledge there is no human agency, only successfull and perfect
>> conspiracies ...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:24 AM, David Rose <dr4823 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This new video about the staged nature of the "Arab Spring" looks
>>> interesting. I love the bit about the fake video game created by the CIA,
>>> on how to start a revolution.  As the V/O says: "today, young people
>>> don't like to read books".
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpXbA6yZY-8&
>>>
>>> http://www.journeyman.tv/
>>>
>>> The Revolution Business
>>>
>>> "Democratic change has been demanded across the Middle East. But was
>>> what seems like a spontaneous revolution actually a strategically
>>> planned event, fabricated by 'revolution consultants' long in
>>> advance?"
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