[P2P-F] historical success of shorter working week

Tue Jul 12 20:20:46 CEST 2011

perhaps what would be useful to start with, as our audience doesn't know
you, is the total logic of your work, i.e. why are you writing those 2 books
specifically, 'what problem are you trying to solve' and who are you
'debating' with ...

later on, we can give more extensive treatment of your books in our book of
the week program, if you're interested,

this involves 3 presentations per book, on a given week, with a general
presentation followed by 2 significant experts,

Michel

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Sandwichman <lumpoflabor at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Michel I'll work up a brief outline.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Tom, this is also a general invitation to present your books and concepts
>> to the p2p foundation audience, our blog is a top 2% retweeted blog ...
>>
>> I don't have time for the moment to explore your ideas in depth myself,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Sandwichman <lumpoflabor at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Michel et al.,
>>>
>>> In my view one of the most inspirational historical experiences with a
>>> shorter day for full pay was achieved in the Newcastle engineers' strike of
>>> 1871 for the nine-hour day. The success of that struggle inspired a wave of
>>> emulation across the U.K. and (at least) Canada. I retell the story of that
>>> strike, based mainly on the contemporary account of John Burnett, in the
>>> first chapter of my manuscript, "Jobs, Liberty and the Bottom Line," in
>>> which I also present a commons-based (Elinor Ostrom) strategy from
>>> restarting a dynamic shorter work time movement.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ecologicalheadstand.blogspot.com/p/jobs-liberty-and-bottom-line.html
>>>
>>> best
>>>
>>> Tom Walker
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  thanks Juliet, already very useful,
>>>>
>>>> Michel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Juliet Schor <juliet.schor at bc.edu>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
>>>>> A great historical source is Ben Hunnicutt's Work without End. His book
>>>>> on the Kellogg workers six hour day finds a less positive outcome.
>>>>> My student, Anders Hayden, has written a very nice paper on France,
>>>>> which I attach here. I am also cc:ing Ben Hunnicutt who may have some good
>>>>> references on positive cases. Ben, any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Juliet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Juliet, Orsan, and friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone point to the historical experience with shorter working
>>>>> weeks (with keeping full pay)?
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as  I know, these experiences were very positive overall, but
>>>>> I'd like to see this confirmed with concrete references,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michel
>>>>>
>>>>>
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