perhaps what would be useful to start with, as our audience doesn't know you, is the total logic of your work, i.e. why are you writing those 2 books specifically, 'what problem are you trying to solve' and who are you 'debating' with ...<br>
<br>later on, we can give more extensive treatment of your books in our book of the week program, if you're interested,<br><br>this involves 3 presentations per book, on a given week, with a general presentation followed by 2 significant experts,<br>
<br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Sandwichman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lumpoflabor@gmail.com">lumpoflabor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks, Michel I'll work up a brief outline.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Tom, this is also a general invitation to present your books and concepts to the p2p foundation audience, our blog is a top 2% retweeted blog ...<br>
<br>I don't have time for the moment to explore your ideas in depth myself,<br><font color="#888888">
<br>Michel<br><br></font><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Sandwichman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lumpoflabor@gmail.com" target="_blank">lumpoflabor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Michel et al., <br><br>In my view one of the most inspirational historical experiences with a shorter day for full pay was achieved in the Newcastle engineers' strike of 1871 for the nine-hour day. The success of that struggle inspired a wave of emulation across the U.K. and (at least) Canada. I retell the story of that strike, based mainly on the contemporary account of John Burnett, in the first chapter of my manuscript, "Jobs, Liberty and the Bottom Line," in which I also present a commons-based (Elinor Ostrom) strategy from restarting a dynamic shorter work time movement.<br>
<br><a href="http://ecologicalheadstand.blogspot.com/p/jobs-liberty-and-bottom-line.html" target="_blank">http://ecologicalheadstand.blogspot.com/p/jobs-liberty-and-bottom-line.html</a><br><br>best<br><br>Tom Walker<br><br>
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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thanks Juliet, already very useful,<br><font color="#888888"><br>Michel</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Juliet Schor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:juliet.schor@bc.edu" target="_blank">juliet.schor@bc.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Michel<div><br></div><div>A great historical source is Ben Hunnicutt's Work without End. His book on the Kellogg workers six hour day finds a less positive outcome.</div>
<div>My student, Anders Hayden, has written a very nice paper on France, which I attach here. I am also cc:ing Ben Hunnicutt who may have some good references on positive cases. Ben, any ideas?</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>
Juliet</div></font><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Dear Juliet, Orsan, and friends,<br><br>Can anyone point to the historical experience with shorter working weeks (with keeping full pay)?<br>
<br>As far as� I know, these experiences were very positive overall, but I'd like to see this confirmed with concrete references,<br>
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