[P2P-F] Fwd: [Open Manufacturing] Re: CERN's open hardware license

Sat Jul 9 17:37:03 CEST 2011

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>Subject: [Open
Manufacturing] CERN's open hardware license
------------------------

From: *Bryan Bishop* <kanzure at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM
To: Open Manufacturing <openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com>, Bryan Bishop <
kanzure at gmail.com>, diybio <diybio at googlegroups.com>

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR08.11E.html

<http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR08.11E.html>"""
CERN launches Open Hardware initiative

Geneva, 7 July 2011. Four months after launching the alpha version,
CERN1<http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR08.11E.html#footnote1>
has
today issued version 1.1 of the Open Hardware Licence (OHL), a legal
framework to facilitate knowledge exchange across the electronic design
community.

In the spirit of knowledge and technology dissemination, the CERN OHL was
created to govern the use, copying, modification and distribution of
hardware design documentation, and the manufacture and distribution of
products. Hardware design documentation includes schematic diagrams,
designs, circuit or circuit-board layouts, mechanical drawings, flow charts
and descriptive texts, as well as other explanatory material.

Version 1.0 of the CERN OHL was published in March 2011 on the Open Hardware
Repository (OHR), the creation of electronic designers working in
experimental-physics laboratories who felt the need to enable
knowledge-exchange across a wide community and in line with the ideals of
"open science" being fostered by organizations such as CERN.

"For us, the drive towards open hardware was largely motivated by
well-intentioned envy of our colleagues who develop Linux device-drivers,"
said Javier Serrano, an engineer at CERN's Beams Department and the founder
of the OHR. "They are part of a very large community of designers who share
their knowledge and time in order to come up with the best possible
operating system. We felt that there was no intrinsic reason why hardware
development should be any different."

The CERN OHL provides a framework for knowledge exchange that reconciles
open design principles with traceability with a clear policy for the
management of intellectual property.

"The concept of 'open-source hardware' or 'open hardware' is not yet as well
known or widespread as the free software or open-source software concept,"
said Myriam Ayass, Legal Advisor for CERN's Knowledge Transfer Group.
"However, it shares the same principles: anyone should be able to see the
source (the design documentation in case of hardware), study it, modify it
and share it."

"The CERN OHL is an exciting achievement, with the potential of being the
lead licence for new hardware projects, like the GNU GPL has been for free
software," said Alessandro Rubini, Free Software developer and co-author of
"Linux Device Drivers".

"Version 1.1 integrates feedback received from the community in order to
follow generally accepted principles of the free and open source movements,"
said Ayass, "and purports to make the CERN OHL even more easily usable by
entities other than CERN".

"By sharing designs openly," said Serrano, "CERN expects to improve the
quality of designs through peer review and to guarantee their users -
including commercial companies - the freedom to study, modify and
manufacture them, leading to better hardware and less duplication of
efforts."

"CERN efforts to build an ecosystem for Open Hardware certainly bode well
for more Freedom in the digital space," said Carlo Piana, Digital liberties
advocate and General Counsel of the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE).

A workshop on Open hardware is scheduled to be held in Grenoble on the 9th
October 2011, during the 13th International Conference on Accelerator and
Large Experimental Physics Control Systems.
Further information

   - CERN Courier: *Hardware joins the open
movement*<http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/46054>
   - Open Hardware Repository: http://www.ohwr.org
   - Open Hardware Licence: http://www.ohwr.org/cernohl
   - Open Hardware workshop:
   http://www.ohwr.org/projects/ohr-meta/wiki/OHWorkshop

Contact

CERN Press Office, press.office at cern.ch
+41 22 767 34 32
+41 22 767 21 41
Follow CERN at:

   - www.cern.ch
   - http://twitter.com/cern/
   - http://www.youtube.com/user/CERNTV
   - http://www.quantumdiaries.org/

1. CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, is the world's
leading laboratory for particle physics. It has its headquarters in Geneva.
At present, its Member States are Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, the Czech
Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, the
Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland
and the United Kingdom. Romania is a candidate for accession. India, Israel,
Japan, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, Turkey, the
European Commission and UNESCO have Observer status.

"""

-- 
- Bryan
http://heybryan.org/
1 512 203 0507

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Open Manufacturing" group.
To post to this group, send email to openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
openmanufacturing+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/openmanufacturing?hl=en.

----------
From: *Bryan Bishop* <kanzure at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM
To: Open Manufacturing <openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com>, Bryan Bishop <
kanzure at gmail.com>, diybio <diybio at googlegroups.com>

And here is a copy of the license..

http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/CERNOHLv1_1.pdf

Here's a few parts that look interesting:

 The Licence includes a licence to those patents or registered designs that
>> are held by the
>
> Licensor, to the extent necessary to make use of the rights granted under
>> this Licence. The
>
> scope of this section 3.4 shall be strictly limited to the parts of the
>> Documentation or modified
>
> Documentation created by the Licensor
>
>
And section 6.1:

 6.1 The rights granted under this Licence do not imply or represent any
>> transfer or assignment of
>
> intellectual property rights to the Licensee
>
>
So... what??

----------
From: *Bryan Bishop* <kanzure at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:25 PM
To: diybio at googlegroups.com, Open Manufacturing <
openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com>, Cathal Garvey <cathalgarvey at gmail.com>,
Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Cathal Garvey wrote:

> 1. Is their license compatible with the Open Hardware Standard developed by
> the OSHW community?
>

CERN claims yes. Ayah Bdeir or Philip Torrone thinks the license does
conform to their Open Hardware Standard. However, after reading the
document, I'm not really sure it does. This just looks like a documentation
agreement.. in which case, why not just use GFDL or other licenses typically
used for project documentation.

> 2. Are they releasing the LHC under an OSHW license? :D
>

No. :-(

----------
From: *Andrew Back* <andrew at carrierdetect.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:30 PM
To: openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com

Not sure I follow you. This is just saying that the licensee also gets
patent licences from the licensor, where required, and that this is
just licensing and the licensor's rights are not being reassigned.

Cheers,

Andrew

--
Andrew Back
mailto:andrew at carrierdetect.com

----------
From: *Bryan Bishop* <kanzure at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:38 PM
To: openmanufacturing at googlegroups.com, Bryan Bishop <kanzure at gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Back wrote:

> On 7 July 2011 18:20, Bryan Bishop wrote:
>

Section 6.1 seems to say that the licensee is not being granted a patent
license?

-- 

-- 
P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net

Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation

Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: https://lists.ourproject.org/pipermail/p2p-foundation/attachments/20110709/17fa571f/attachment.htm 