[P2P-F] Dutch Tree Study

[Michel Bauwens]

very useful Sepp, I created a new entry for our health category,

Michel

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com> wrote:

> Dear Michel, others.
>
> There is indeed plenty of information on the health effects of
> electromagnetic waves, so much that a few newsletters exist that specialize
> in compiling articles published about this.
>
> One is run by Redaktion Buergerwelle at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emf-omega-news/
>
> another one is EMR Updates, run by Paul Doyon and also published through a
> Yahoo group:
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/emfrefugee/
>
> Some more details on electromagnetic waves affecting trees are here
>
>
> http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/scalar_tech/esp_scalartech_cellphonesmicrowave26.htm
>
> and another article by David Rothscum that puts the dangers of the
> radiation in even more explicit terms than this one can be found here:
>
>
> http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-is-death-of-humanity-part-7.html
>
> Having followed the thread of dangers from electromagnetic waves as used in
> digital mobile phone technology, I can only confirm that there is a huge
> situation that we are not properly looking at. Scientific studies cannot be
> trusted as there is plenty of money to corrupt the science. Governments
> cannot be trusted as they are – through spectrum auctions – clearly on the
> same money train as the mobile phone providers.
>
> So we have a situation. Damaging technology that can potentially unravel
> our DNA and cause all kinds of illness in the short space of one or two
> generations, held in place by misinformation, by suppression of reports of
> the dangers of those waves, and by money interests of investors who don’t
> care whether their business kills people … as long as the bottom line is
> right.
> I put this on a comment of Michel's article on the P2P Foundation blog.
>
> There are also some articles on my health site that warn of dangers from
> the mobile phone and similar radiation.
>
>
> http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/12/14/the_cell_phone_experiment_is_mobile_communication_worth_the_risk.htm
>
>
> http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/04/20/mobile_and_wireless_largest_biological_experiment.htm
>
> Kind regards
> Sepp
>
>
> *"The individual is supreme and finds the way through intuition"*
>
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> http://twitter.com/healthsupreme
>
> .
>
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> this is an update to our article on the health impact of cellphones, I'm
> not sure who asked for for info about the impact on humans instead of just
> trees, but see below,
>
> sepp, an updated commentarty to that article would still be very welcome,
> for example with links to the material below.
>
> Michel
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <morrisonbooks at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Dutch Tree Study
> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>
>
>  Michel,
>
> Thank you so much for your effort.  I found this site which looks
> comprehensive.
> http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.boomaantastingen.nl/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.nl&usg=ALkJrhhRNsgVezoiZDDQVmE-yL0HjfCMRw
>
> also this article came out on the WEEP website
> Kindest REgards,
> David Morrison
>
>  *This Is The Death Of Humanity* - part 7
>  Thursday, January 20, 2011
> http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-is-death-of-humanity-part-7.html
> Who do you think you're kidding?
>
> Let's make some things clear: Cell phones cause cancer. Cell phone towers
> cause cancer. Cordless phones cause cancer. Blackberries cause cancer,
> Iphones cause cancer. Power lines cause cancer. Radio and TV towers cause
> cancer. Non-ionizing radiation leads to oxidative damage, which leads to
> indirect DNA damage, which leads to cancer.
>
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Wireless communication is
> irreconcilable with organic life as we know it. In the words of Andrew
> Goldsworthy:<http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=213&Itemid=136>"The problem is far more serious than anyone has previously imagined. The
> effects on people with EHS and allergy-related conditions are bad enough in
> their own right but, with about half the world's population already owning a
> mobile phone, the resulting widespread genetic damage threatens the future
> of the entire human race. "
>
> But why should I bother? Everyone knows about it. Everyone knows the
> radiation is hurting us. Everyone except for first year physics students
> that is. The Telecom industry knows all too well that we have no future.
> Biologists know what's going on. Most people are simply uncomfortable with
> the thought, so they deny it. This is called cognitive dissonance. As
> explained by Wikipedia:
>
> Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding
> conflicting ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance
> proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance. They do
> this by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and actions. Dissonance is also
> reduced by justifying, blaming, and denying. It is one of the most
> influential and extensively studied theories in social psychology.
>
> A good example is found on Wikipedia as well:
>
> Smoking is often postulated as an example of cognitive dissonance because
> it is widely accepted that cigarettes can cause lung cancer, yet virtually
> everyone wants to live a long and healthy life. In terms of the theory, the
> desire to live a long life is dissonant with the activity of doing something
> that will most likely shorten one's life. The tension produced by these
> contradictory ideas can be reduced by quitting smoking, denying the evidence
> of lung cancer, or justifying one's smoking.[5] For example, smokers could
> rationalize their behavior by concluding that only a few smokers become ill,
> that it only happens to very heavy smokers, or that if smoking does not kill
> them, something else will.[6] While chemical addiction may operate in
> addition to cognitive dissonance for existing smokers, new smokers may
> exhibit a simpler case of the latter.
>
> Now for cell phones:
>
> The information is that cell phones cause brain cancer. Your desire is not
> to get brain cancer, but to live a long and happy life. You don't want your
> kids to get a brain tumor either. The rational conclusion would thus be to
> avoid the radiation. However, you don't want to. It takes too much effort.
> Also, everyone is using cell phones. This would mean that everyone is
> screwed, and you have no future. The thought of humanity having no future
> contradicts your desire to live a long and happy life.
>
> Thus, you have to reconcile these different thought patterns in your head.
> There are multiple ways. You could stop using cell phones and go live in a
> cave. But you don't want that. You could be like me, and learn to live with
> the fact that the next generations are going to have it worse than ours, and
> life expectancy will plummet. Someone will manage to put a ban on the
> radiation eventually, though the question is how many people will be left by
> then. I'm sure some people will be left, it's very hard to go from 6 billion
> to zero, and we still have people hiding in the rain-forests where you have
> no connection, but the exact number that will be left remains debatable.
>
> My way of dealing with these contradictory ideas is as following: I
> begrudgingly accept the fact that I will probably die at a younger age than
> my parents, and I accept the fact that most people are going to suffer
> immensely from the health consequences. There are multiple ways to attempt
> to reduce the damage (and I will eventually cover those here), but I remain
> rational, and the only way to truly prevent the problem is by turning off
> the cell phone towers and all the wireless devices. Until then, anything you
> do is little more than treating the symptoms of radiation poisoning.
>
> There are other ways to reduce the cognitive dissonance of course. You can
> simply deny the information. One way to deny the information is by keeping
> yourself willfully ignorant. Most people practice this method. You just
> don't read about it and just don't think about it. You try not to think at
> all. The fact of the matter is that thinking leads to cognitive dissonance,
> and cognitive dissonance is a very uncomfortable feeling (that I love to
> generate), so you do your best to limit your thinking to the minimum amount
> which is necessary for you to carry out your job. This is a time-tested
> method.
>
> This is passive denial, you could also actively deny the information by
> claiming that cell phones don't cause brain cancer at all. In that case,
> you're just wrong. I'm sorry, the debate is over. Everyone knows. An
> alternating electrical field is currently used as a brain cancer treatment.
> <http://www.novocuretrial.com/science.html>Why? Because the radiation
> kills the brain cells while they're dividing, which is when cells are most
> vulnerable to the radiation. Why are you questioning whether the radiation
> can harm cells, when it is effectively being used as a cancer treatment? Read
> this for yourself, the frequency is in the 100Khz-300Khz range.<http://www.virtualtrials.com/pdf/Novocure.pdf>This is low-frequency, lower even than microwave radiation. I suspect this
> is to allow the radiation to penetrate deeper into the brain. Regardless,
> the point should be clear. Non-ionizing radiation is used as a cancer
> treatment, because it kills the cells. What is it that makes you think
> that you can safely hold a radiation emitting device against your head?
>
> Even the telecom industry is laughing in your face. They know better, they
> are fully aware of the health impact this will have. Take a look at this
> patent of a Swiss Telecom company, which carries the highly original name,
> Swisscom.<http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2004075583&IA=CH2003000138&DISPLAY=STATUS>The patent explains how they have developed a new type of cordless
> telephone, that emits less radiation than previous ones. And what is so
> amazing? The fact that they mention themselves that the radiation causes
> cancer! The telecom industry admits in patents for their technology, that
> their technology causes cancer! But your government pretends there is no
> danger! And best of all, you swallow their lies!
>
> From the patent:
>
> The influence of electrosmog on the human body is a known problem. The
> health risk from mobile radio transmitters, handys and DECT telephones has
> been an explosive subject among the general public at least since the
> enormous breakthrough in mobile radio technology in the 1990s. To meet the
> concerns of science from the legislative side, the permissible limit values
> have thus been lowered several times, and technology has been increasingly
> focused on this problem. The risk of damage to health through electrosmoghas also become better understood as a result of more recent and improved
> studies. When, for example, human blood cells are irradiated with
> electromagnetic fields, clear damage to hereditary material has been
> demonstrated and there have been indications of an increased cancer risk.
>
> When a Telecom company wants to sell their own product, they suddenly admit
> that the radiation is causing DNA damage! And you, the dumb gullible fool,
> deny there is a problem. Everyone knows, except for you. They're laughing in
> your face. Though, I imagine they must also suffer from guilt feelings.
>
> I wonder what method the people who sell you this garbage use to reduce the
> cognitive dissonance. I suspect they might simply introduce new information:
> "The fact that I am responsible for the death of humanity contradicts my
> desire not to be a mass murderer. However, the profit I make from
> exterminating humanity fulfills my desire to become rich".
>
> As I mentioned earlier, I like generating cognitive dissonance. So, hoping
> that some Telecom-gangsters will read this far, I will leave them with the
> words of Bob Dylan:
>
> Let me ask you one question: Is your money that good? Will it buy you
> forgiveness? Do you think that it could? I think you will find, when your
> death takes its toll, all the money you made will never buy back your
> soul.
>
> Telecom-gangsters, please be aware that leaking memos of your mob-bosses to
> the internet (no need to use Wikileaks for that, Julian Assange will just
> put them somewhere in his giant insurance file which he uses to keep himself
> from getting killed), quitting your job, going public by warning people
> about the danger, or simply giving away ALL the dirty money you earned to
> the poor (and keeping your mouth shut about it, no bragging) will do a lot
> to clean the karma stains from your soul. Get the dirty money out of your
> life, now. It is the first step towards self improvement. You know it's
> wrong for you to make money by selling stuff that hurts people. Here's a
> little secret: You will feel more alive when you get the money out of your
> life. You just became a little wiser, and with wisdom comes peace of mind.
>
> Now, unlike the Telecom-gangsters, some of you will have no idea what the
> hell I'm talking about. You might want to read some of the earlier articles
> I've written:
>
> -Here's one all the way back from March of 2009, looking at 3 studies that
> found a big link
> <http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2009/03/are-you-at-risk-from-cell-phone-tower.html>between
> living next to a cell phone tower, and getting cancer.
>
> This article should really have been part of this series:
>
> -It's all over in fifty years.<http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2010/06/its-all-over-in-fifty-years.html>
>
> Gaia is crying, because you killed her children to tell your friend about
> the ugly dress your coworker wore to the office party:*
>  -You killed the birds, the bees, the frogs, the bats and the trees
> <http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2010/11/you-killed-birds-bees-frogs-bats-and.html>
>
> *That puts things in perspective doesn't it? Your cell-phone conversations
> are a big disgrace to the human race. Stop embarrassing us any further.
>
> And, the most recent one:
>
> New research confirms: Electromagnetic omnicide is culling the trees
> <http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-research-confirms-electromagnetic.html>
>  Now, if you feel like crying at any point while reading, because you're
> not a bitter misanthropist yet, please remember the words of Bill Hicks: It's
> all just a ride. <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUiwTubYu0> Always keep
> this in mind during the death of humanity. You might still cry while
> watching the video though. But they'll be a different kind of tears.
>
>
>
> Dear Sepp,
>
> just in case you have easier access this type of info:
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear David,
>>
>> I'm  not the author, but here you can find his details:
>> http://davidrothscum.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-research-confirms-electromagnetic.html
>>
>> and he refers to
>> http://www.tuinenlandschap.nl/nieuws/3916/bomen-hebben-last-van-elektromagnetische-straling
>>
>> this dutch article only mentions the city and the name of the uni:
>>
>>  recent onderzoek van de gemeente Alphen aan den Rijn en de leerstoelgroep
>> plantcelbiologie (Wageningen Universiteit).
>>
>> If you can't find more through the original author, I could look for dutch
>> contacts who can help, but thanks for trying there first,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:53 AM, <morrisonbooks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Michel,
>>>
>>> I read the Dutch Tree Study about wireless and would like to know if you
>>> have a link to the study itself.  I am pursuing a legal case against the
>>> school system here in Oregon, USA for installing wi fi in the schools and
>>> think that this study could be useful in my case.  Thank you for providing
>>> this information.  I have subscribed to your newsletter and linked the story
>>> to my website (below).  What a sorry state we are in and all for greed and
>>> stupidity.  Business as usual.
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>> David Morrison / Portland OR
>>>
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