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Cyclonite, personally I am ready to work with bitcoin today, although
the rest of p2pf may not be, which I'll respect

On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Cyclonite <cyclonite at safe-mail.net> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I think there is some kind of misunderstanding here, you do not need to manually generate any kind of public/private keys as with OpenPGP.
>
> You can even sign up in a website as mybitcoin.com and start making or receiving donations.
>
> In my opinion the best available info for beginners is http://bitcoinme.com. Please take a look and you will get your doubts clear.
>
> Best regards,
> Cyclonite.
> --
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> Bitcoin donations jar: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
> To: james burke <lifesized at gmail.com>
> Cc: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>, cyclonite at safe-mail.net, p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com>, Georg Pleger <g.pleger at yahoo.de>
> Subject: Re: Bitcoin donation
> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:30:23 -0500
>
>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:54 AM, james burke <lifesized at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Michel,
>> > Yes, I do have a public key, but yet again,
>> > another nice idea with terrible interaction design and userbility
>> > - most people have no clue about public private keys, so this keeps it a
>> > geek thing
>>
>> I agree, although as far as I can see, the application at least takes
>> care of this for the user. Still, your point is valid in that some
>> people may not understand what is happening.
>>
>>
>> Most of the users of bitcoin now are early adopters, however. So, if
>> p2pf did support donation via bitcoin, it would be joining an ecology
>> of early adopters, and would likely only receive donation from those
>> early adopters.
>>
>> > - the actual app upon launch is unclear. Where to click, what to do,gah!
>> >
>> > I can't really support this even if it is a p2p solution.
>> > James
>> >
>>
>> Seems reasonable. If p2pf changes it's mind, I'm willing to
>> participate in any experiments with bitcoin
>>
>>
>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> James,
>> >>
>> >> do you have a public key?
>> >>
>> >> Michel
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> This is a p2p application, so we would need to post your's or James's
>> >>> public key, and people who want to donate bitcoins would need then
>> >>> send you the bitcoins by downloading the bitcoin application and
>> >>> sending it to you
>> >>>
>> >>> quote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "Bitcoin utilizes public/private key digital signatures (ECDSA). A
>> >>> coin has its owner's public key on it. When a coin is transferred from
>> >>> user A to user B, A adds B’s public key to the coin and signs it with
>> >>> his own private key. Now B owns the coin and can transfer it further.
>> >>> To prevent A from transferring the already used coin to another user
>> >>> C, a public list of all the previous transactions is collectively
>> >>> maintained by the network of Bitcoin nodes, and before each
>> >>> transaction the coin’s unusedness will be checked."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens
>> >>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Sam, can you help us install it on the wiki and blog?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I've downloaded and installed and am game to try with p2pf network
>> >>> >> folks.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> This could actually be really useful for lots of local economy efforts
>> >>> >> too.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> >>> >> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Dear,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > thanks a lot for this email,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > it seems that it is worthwhile for us to experiment with this, but I
>> >>> >> > will
>> >>> >> > forward this to James Burke for possible implementation
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > James, I think we should do this, what do  you think?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Michel
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM, <cyclonite at safe-mail.net> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> >>> >> >> Hash: SHA1
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Dear friends,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I have been looking in your site for any reference to Bitcoin for
>> >>> >> >> making a
>> >>> >> >> small donation.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> As  you  probably  know,  Bitcoin  (bitcoin.org)  is  a  new kind
>> >>> >> >> of a
>> >>> >> >> P2P
>> >>> >> >> crypto-currency in which the general public can  make donations,
>> >>> >> >> macro
>> >>> >> >>  or
>> >>> >> >> micropayments   in  a  secure  and   anonymous  way  usually
>> >>> >> >>  without
>> >>> >> >>  any
>> >>> >> >> transaction fee involved.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> You can change Bitcoins for real money (eg: https://mtgox.com) or
>> >>> >> >> purchase
>> >>> >> >> services or goods in an increasing number of sites.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> In  order to  receive  donations you  only have  to  publish  one
>> >>> >> >>  of
>> >>> >> >> your
>> >>> >> >> accounts  as generated  by the  bitcoin client  or any specialized
>> >>> >> >> bitcoin
>> >>> >> >> trader (eg: mybitcoin.com).
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Currently  some   projects  as  www.i2p2.de,
>> >>> >> >>  www.torrentservers.net
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> organizations like the EFF are accepting donations.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> In  my  opinion  this  kind  of decentralized solution without the
>> >>> >> >> need
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> trust  any  middlemen  is much better than  Paypal, Visa or
>> >>> >> >> Mastercard
>> >>> >> >> for
>> >>> >> >> security-minded people as most of your donors are.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> If  you  are  interested in  pushing  Bitcoin forward,  do not
>> >>> >> >> hesitate
>> >>> >> >> to
>> >>> >> >> contact me if you have any doubt.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Yours,
>> >>> >> >> Cyclonite
>> >>> >> >> __
>> >>> >> >> OpenPGP Email: https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg
>> >>> >> >> bitcoin donations: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG
>> >>> >> >>
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>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --
>> >>> >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  -
>> >>> >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens;
>> >>> >> > http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
>> >>> >> > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Think tank:
>> >>> >> > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Sam Rose
>> >>> >> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
>> >>> >> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>> >>> >> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>> >>> >> skype: samuelrose
>> >>> >> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>> >>> >> http://forwardfound.org
>> >>> >> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
>> >>> >> http://hollymeadcapital.com
>> >>> >> http://p2pfoundation.net
>> >>> >> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
>> >>> >> ambition." - Carl Sagan
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  -
>> >>> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
>> >>> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
>> >>> > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Think tank:
>> >>> > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> --
>> >>> Sam Rose
>> >>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
>> >>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>> >>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>> >>> skype: samuelrose
>> >>> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>> >>> http://forwardfound.org
>> >>> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
>> >>> http://hollymeadcapital.com
>> >>> http://p2pfoundation.net
>> >>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
>> >>>
>> >>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
>> >>> ambition." - Carl Sagan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>> >>
>> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
>> >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
>> >>
>> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
>> >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>> >>
>> >> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Web: www.lifesized.net  Phone:+31 (0)6 5244 6445 Twitter: @lifesized
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Sam Rose
>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
>> skype: samuelrose
>> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
>> http://forwardfound.org
>> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
>> http://hollymeadcapital.com
>> http://p2pfoundation.net
>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
>>
>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
>> ambition." - Carl Sagan
>



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--
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