[P2P-F] Bitcoin donation

Sun Jan 16 23:17:02 CET 2011

Hi Guys,

I think there is some kind of misunderstanding here, you do not need to manually generate any kind of public/private keys as with OpenPGP. 

You can even sign up in a website as mybitcoin.com and start making or receiving donations.

In my opinion the best available info for beginners is http://bitcoinme.com. Please take a look and you will get your doubts clear.

Best regards,
Cyclonite.
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-------- Original Message --------
From: Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
To: james burke <lifesized at gmail.com>
Cc: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>, cyclonite at safe-mail.net, p2p-foundation <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com>, Georg Pleger <g.pleger at yahoo.de>
Subject: Re: Bitcoin donation
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:30:23 -0500

> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:54 AM, james burke <lifesized at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Michel,
> > Yes, I do have a public key, but yet again,
> > another nice idea with terrible interaction design and userbility
> > - most people have no clue about public private keys, so this keeps it a
> > geek thing
> 
> I agree, although as far as I can see, the application at least takes
> care of this for the user. Still, your point is valid in that some
> people may not understand what is happening.
> 
> 
> Most of the users of bitcoin now are early adopters, however. So, if
> p2pf did support donation via bitcoin, it would be joining an ecology
> of early adopters, and would likely only receive donation from those
> early adopters.
> 
> > - the actual app upon launch is unclear. Where to click, what to do,gah!
> >
> > I can't really support this even if it is a p2p solution.
> > James
> >
> 
> Seems reasonable. If p2pf changes it's mind, I'm willing to
> participate in any experiments with bitcoin
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> James,
> >>
> >> do you have a public key?
> >>
> >> Michel
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is a p2p application, so we would need to post your's or James's
> >>> public key, and people who want to donate bitcoins would need then
> >>> send you the bitcoins by downloading the bitcoin application and
> >>> sending it to you
> >>>
> >>> quote:
> >>>
> >>> "Bitcoin utilizes public/private key digital signatures (ECDSA). A
> >>> coin has its owner's public key on it. When a coin is transferred from
> >>> user A to user B, A adds B’s public key to the coin and signs it with
> >>> his own private key. Now B owns the coin and can transfer it further.
> >>> To prevent A from transferring the already used coin to another user
> >>> C, a public list of all the previous transactions is collectively
> >>> maintained by the network of Bitcoin nodes, and before each
> >>> transaction the coin’s unusedness will be checked."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Michel Bauwens
> >>> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Sam, can you help us install it on the wiki and blog?
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I've downloaded and installed and am game to try with p2pf network
> >>> >> folks.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This could actually be really useful for lots of local economy efforts
> >>> >> too.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Michel Bauwens
> >>> >> <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> > Dear,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > thanks a lot for this email,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > it seems that it is worthwhile for us to experiment with this, but I
> >>> >> > will
> >>> >> > forward this to James Burke for possible implementation
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > James, I think we should do this, what do  you think?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Michel
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM, <cyclonite at safe-mail.net> wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >>> >> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Dear friends,
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I have been looking in your site for any reference to Bitcoin for
> >>> >> >> making a
> >>> >> >> small donation.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> As  you  probably  know,  Bitcoin  (bitcoin.org)  is  a  new kind
> >>> >> >> of a
> >>> >> >> P2P
> >>> >> >> crypto-currency in which the general public can  make donations,
> >>> >> >> macro
> >>> >> >>  or
> >>> >> >> micropayments   in  a  secure  and   anonymous  way  usually
> >>> >> >>  without
> >>> >> >>  any
> >>> >> >> transaction fee involved.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> You can change Bitcoins for real money (eg: https://mtgox.com) or
> >>> >> >> purchase
> >>> >> >> services or goods in an increasing number of sites.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> In  order to  receive  donations you  only have  to  publish  one
> >>> >> >>  of
> >>> >> >> your
> >>> >> >> accounts  as generated  by the  bitcoin client  or any specialized
> >>> >> >> bitcoin
> >>> >> >> trader (eg: mybitcoin.com).
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Currently  some   projects  as  www.i2p2.de,
> >>> >> >>  www.torrentservers.net
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> organizations like the EFF are accepting donations.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> In  my  opinion  this  kind  of decentralized solution without the
> >>> >> >> need
> >>> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> trust  any  middlemen  is much better than  Paypal, Visa or
> >>> >> >> Mastercard
> >>> >> >> for
> >>> >> >> security-minded people as most of your donors are.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> If  you  are  interested in  pushing  Bitcoin forward,  do not
> >>> >> >> hesitate
> >>> >> >> to
> >>> >> >> contact me if you have any doubt.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Yours,
> >>> >> >> Cyclonite
> >>> >> >> __
> >>> >> >> OpenPGP Email: https://privacybox.de/cyclonite.msg
> >>> >> >> bitcoin donations: 16FVZweaaJLvhAy91oDugqaf84kXiDJ9PG
> >>> >> >>
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> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  -
> >>> >> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
> >>> >> >
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> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Think tank:
> >>> >> > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Sam Rose
> >>> >> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
> >>> >> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
> >>> >> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
> >>> >> skype: samuelrose
> >>> >> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
> >>> >> http://forwardfound.org
> >>> >> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
> >>> >> http://hollymeadcapital.com
> >>> >> http://p2pfoundation.net
> >>> >> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
> >>> >> ambition." - Carl Sagan
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  -
> >>> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> >>> >
> >>> > Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
> >>> > http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
> >>> >
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> >>> > http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
> >>> >
> >>> > Think tank:
> >>> > http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Sam Rose
> >>> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
> >>> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
> >>> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
> >>> skype: samuelrose
> >>> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
> >>> http://forwardfound.org
> >>> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
> >>> http://hollymeadcapital.com
> >>> http://p2pfoundation.net
> >>> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
> >>>
> >>> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
> >>> ambition." - Carl Sagan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
> >>
> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
> >> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
> >>
> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
> >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
> >>
> >> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Web: www.lifesized.net  Phone:+31 (0)6 5244 6445 Twitter: @lifesized
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> Sam Rose
> Future Forward Institute and Forward Foundation
> Tel:+1(517) 639-1552
> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
> skype: samuelrose
> email: samuel.rose at gmail.com
> http://forwardfound.org
> http://futureforwardinstitute.org
> http://hollymeadcapital.com
> http://p2pfoundation.net
> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
> 
> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
> ambition." - Carl Sagan
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