[P2P-F] Debt, Human Rights and Nature

Sat Feb 19 11:36:01 CET 2011

yes, that would be fine, I can copy-paste only a portion of the section you
indicate,

Michel

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Douglas Rushkoff <rushkoff at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sure.
> You want an e-file of the whole book? I can point out the section to you or
> anyone who is interested in converting from PDF....
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> On Feb 18, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
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> hi doug,
>
> perhaps you have a section of your book that can be excerpted for this, on
> the p2p blog?
>
> I'm interested in that particular historical passage,
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Douglas Rushkoff <rushkoff at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Well, I wrote a whole book on this called Life Inc.: How Corporatism
>> Conquered the World and How We Can Take it Back.
>>
>> Most simply, p2p currencies were made illegal because the people were
>> getting wealthy. There was a new middle class actually creating and
>> exchanging value, and the aristocracy had to stop this before they lost
>> their artificial hold on power. So they made money illegal, and chartered
>> monopolies to do all the business (in return for passive returns).
>>
>> In US, the right to issue money went to a private corporation for other
>> reasons.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Kevin Carson wrote:
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>> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> So governments had the authority to issue currency for themselves,
>> >> but then gave it away to private corporations?
>> >
>> > As far as I can tell, the private corporations are the government.
>> > (In the same sense that feudal landlords, optimates, etc., were the
>> > government under previous dispensations).
>> >
>> >> How funny.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder why they did this.  It must be for the best, right?
>> >>
>> >> I've heard people say "It is to control inflation" as though those
>> >> private corporations have more self-control than governments.
>> >>
>> >> If this logic is true, does that mean all the P2P currencies are
>> >> fundamentally flawed?
>> >
>> > Sure.  And if high fructose corn syrup and rubber tomatoes are good
>> > for you, people like Michael Pollan and Frances Moore Lappe are
>> > fundamentally flawed.  But that's not the way I'd bet.
>> >
>> >> If this logic is false, does that mean our governments and the
>> >> corporations that operate those governments are lying to us?
>> >
>> > You just won a cigar!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kevin Carson
>> > Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org
>> > Mutualist Blog:  Free Market Anti-Capitalism
>> > http://mutualist.blogspot.com
>> > The Homebrew Industrial Revolution:  A Low-Overhead Manifesto
>> > http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com
>> > Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
>> >
>> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
>> >
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