[P2P-F] Debt, Human Rights and Nature

Thu Feb 17 17:55:08 CET 2011

I noticed from my recent experience in Green movements here in western
europe that certain audiences are more open then others.

I noticed that some politicians from green parties are not necessarily very
outspoken or critical - sometimes only scratching the surface, trying to
picture a more "soft" capitalism, without re-questioning its structure.   At
a european green level, I notice there is an agenda for a ( pro capitalist ?
) Green New Deal ( speculative capitalist bubble ? ).

I feel less reservations in requestioning the system from people involved
with Friends of the Earth, or, apparently - when reading the article you
sent - from Greenpeace.

Although even in various "representative" green parties, I notice big
differences.

I did notice ( and believe I sent to the list ? ) a draft from the US green
party for "Monetary Reform".

http://www.monetary.org/greenpartymonetaryplank.html

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:04 PM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 06:54:18 AM -0700, Patrick Anderson (
> agnucius at gmail.com) wrote:
> > M. Fioretti wrote:
>
> > > "These bankers are not proposing to loan their money to the
> > > world. Rather, they propose creating new money out of thin air..."
> >
> > If THEY can create money "out of thin air", what is stopping US from
> > doing the same? Who gave THEM that authority, and who took it away
> > from US?
>
> Patrick (and list)
>
> If yet another (re-)discussion about this theme starts here that's OK
> for me, of course. I have almost no answers myself on these things,
> but it's always interesting to read answers from others.
>
> Personally, however, that's not why I posted that link: the news, I
> think, is not what is said, but only _where_ it is said.
>
> What I mean is simply that, if even Greenpeace (audience) start asking
> certain questions, maybe this is the time, and a good opportunity (not
> for me personally, but for you or somebody else more prepared than I
> am) to go THERE to ask questions like these, to people who maybe
> wouldn't have listened, or seen the problem, just one or six months
> ago.
>
> Marco
>
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