[P2P-F] Fwd: weak vs strong ties as wrong dilemma

Tue Feb 8 09:23:09 CET 2011

sam, the place is http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Infrastructure,

Michel, can you tell me a good place to plug this in to p2pf wiki?

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From: Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [P2P-F] weak vs strong ties as wrong dilemma
To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
Cc: George Papanikolaou <georgepapani at gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:36 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sam,
>
> with george, who is quite busy but interested, I'm quite committed to
create
> a group for social reflection on how the p2p phase transition can occur,
>
> I will start with him a collective reading of the state theory of nikos
> poulantzas, who was an innovative greek marxist thinker
>
> but I would love to have a permanet vehicle for high level strategizing
>
> Michel
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>

George, very glad to meet you.

Michel, definitely count us in on this. I think you are right, that
while there are no guarantees, that in many ways this transition is
starting now.

One sign that seems to me to be connected to both wikileaks phenomenon
earlier, and the Pirate Party/Tunisia/Egypt activity is that more and
more mainstream programmers and internet advocates (like Douglas
Rushkoff) are seriously discussing or already contributing to efforts
to create truly p2p/distributed internet infrastructure. I know you've
seen me state this previously, but I will repeat it here:

The pressures close, control, and centralize the networks and software
that are the "internet" by corporations and governments are driving
the rapid evolution of a completely distributed internet
infrastructure. The technological building blocks to create a
distributed internet have existed for some time now, it has largely
been a matter of obstacles being social/political/cultural.

So, this old, forgotten book is now really important again for the at
least part of the discussion on the basic exploration of concepts
(although the technologies it discusses may be outdated):
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001100/

The Ruby programming language now supports distributed Ruby
programming, and Erlang can handle massively distributed computing as
well. Several data stores have also emerged that can easily be
distributed (couchdb, riak, etc). See also:
http://en.oreilly.com/mysql2011/public/schedule/detail/17648 The web
protocols behind the diaspora software release also show that a fully
distributed social networking web infrastructure is now possible.

Michel, can you tell me a good place to plug this in to p2pf wiki? I
also have many examples as mentioned before of emerging discussion
among open source software developers with the chops to make p2p
internet happen, and mainstream channels like O'Reilly discussing
again

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