[P2P-F] <nettime> Dror Kamir: Egypte, brûle-t-elle?

Wed Feb 2 14:05:54 CET 2011

thanks Dante,

Michel

2011/2/2 Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>

> Writing history before, or as it happens... ?
>
> " In the list of things that Wikipedia isn't there is a
> paragraph saying "Wikipedia is not a newspaper". Indeed, Wikipedia
> did not function here as a newspaper, but rather as a tool serving
> the organizers of the demonstrations. "
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Geert Lovink <geert at xs4all.nl>
> Date: 2011/2/2
> Subject: <nettime> Dror Kamir: Egypte, brûle-t-elle?
> To: nettime-l at kein.org
>
>
>
> Dear nettimers,
>
> I wanted to share this story with you all. It ran on the Critical
> Point of View mailinglist that belongs to the Wikiresearch network
> with the same name. Dror Kamir is an Israeli Wikipedian with lots of
> knowledge of the 'region', and, like many in that part of the world, a
> colorful (online) personality and complex political agenda (as they
> say...).
>
> Greetings! Geert
>
> PS. somewhere in March-April the CPOV reader will be out. The
> publication reaches the final stage of copy-editing.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Dror Kamir <dqamir at bezeqint.net>
> > Date: 31 January 2011 7:55:41 PM
> > To: cpov at listcultures.org
> > Subject: <CPOV> Egypte, brûle-t-elle?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I suppose you have all noticed that Egypt is going through rough
> > time, but I wonder if you looked into the history of the article
> > about the events. It almost seems as if the article preceded the
> > actual events. The article on the English-language Wikipedia is
> > entitled "2011 Egyptian protests". It already exists in 39 languages
> > (incl. English). In Arabic and Egyptian-Arabic it is entitled "The
> > Egyptian Revolution of Wrath" (the demonstrations on Friday were
> > called by the organizers "Friday of Wrath").
> >
> > Now to the interesting part - The demonstrations were planned via
> > FaceBook for about a week, and "D-Day" was Tuesday, 25 January
> > (which is a public holiday in Egypt). The first version of the
> > article on the English Wikipedia has a time stamp of 13:26 25
> > January 2011 (UTC I presume). The person who initiated the article
> > is nicknamed "The Egyptian Liberal" and according to his userpage he
> > is an Egyptian who lives in Dubai and speaks both Arabic and English
> > as mother tongues. "The Egyptian Liberal" worked very fast to enrich
> > the article, and it was practically written in the course of the
> > events. In the list of things that Wikipedia isn't there is a
> > paragraph saying "Wikipedia is not a newspaper". Indeed, Wikipedia
> > did not function here as a newspaper, but rather as a tool serving
> > the organizers of the demonstrations.
> >
> > An equivalent article was initiated on the Arabic Wikipedia 3 and a
> > half hours after its English counterpart. It was initiated by
> > someone who apparently lives in Egypt, but "The Egyptian Liberal"
> > joined him quite soon. The article on the Egyptian-Arabic Wikipedia
> > emerged only on 28 January, two and a half days after its English
> > and Arabic counterparts. It was initiated by a person who lives in
> > Egypt, and he is also the main contributor, but "The Egyptian
> > Liberal" had his share here too.
> >
> > These are just my first observation, which I find interesting
> > because it is, in my opinion, another stage of Wikipedia losing its
> > encyclopedic characteristics.
> >
> > Dror
> >
> >
> > בתאריך 31/01/11 17:07, ציטוט Maja van der Velden:
> >> Define Gender Gap? Look Up Wikipedia’s Contributor List
> >>
> >> In 10 short years, Wikipedia has accomplished some remarkable
> >> goals. More than 3.5 million articles in English? Done. More than
> >> 250 languages? Sure. But another number has proved to be an
> >> intractable obstacle for the online encyclopedia: surveys suggest
> >> that less than 15 percent of its hundreds of thousands of
> >> contributors are women.
> >>
> >> More here:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/business/media/31link.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1296486151-4fB4AiSiCizUtpXNS2UGPA
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> Maja
> >>
> >>
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