[P2P-F] a reminder of ron paul's positions

Fri Dec 30 00:28:38 CET 2011

Bad idea... What you have written below sounds very much like the end of
Weimar and the rise of....

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Thank you David...

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From: David Rose
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To critique Ron Paul on his policies and statements about race is to miss
what the Ron Paul political movement means. Its about a popular desire to
disenfranchise the elites who have dominated American political life since
the Civil War.  Its about removing an entire privileged class from their
position of power. As I written before, his polices and beliefs maybe nuts,
irrational and racist but people are not supporting his policies. They want
to send a message to the elites by voting for Ron Paul. Its the ultimate
negative, protest vote from a nation that no longer believes in liberal
democracy. On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Michel Bauwens
<michel at p2pfoundation.net> wrote:
> this seems a balanced view of the race aspects:
>
> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30079.htm
>
> this one distinguishes between certain of his supporters and his own 
> views
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremi
> sts-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html
>
> more critical approaches:
>
> http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/ron-paul-anti-war-anti-veteran-oppor
> tunist-hypocrite
>
> http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/05/don%e2%80%99t-fall-for-ron-paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Devin Balkind
> <devin at sarapisfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> And he's racist!
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i3EADdr-5AY
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Michel Bauwens
>> <michel at p2pfoundation.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> via  
>>> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/28/1049410/-Ron-Paul-Really?
>>>
>>> He does not believe the federal government should play any role in 
>>> the provision of health care.  He does not believe that illegal 
>>> aliens should be provided emergency health care.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul doesn't believe in environmental protection . . . at all.  
>>> He would rely on the market to protect the environment.  He does not 
>>> believe climate change is a major problem.
>>>
>>> Liberals are angry because President Obama is wrestling with his own 
>>> beliefs and has not come out strongly in favor of gay marriage.
>>>
>>>
>>> he does not believe the Federal government should interfere with the 
>>> rights of same-sex couples to marry, he does not support gay 
>>> marriage - he believes it should be up to individual states.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul would never intervene in any situation, even for 
>>> humanitarian reasons such as Darfur or the Sudan. This includes 
>>> "financial interference".  He believes the U.S. should withdraw from 
>>> the U.N.
>>>
>>> He also believes we should erect a 700 mile long wall between the 
>>> U.S. and Mexico.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul signed the Anti-Abortion Pledge.  He introduced the 
>>> "Sanctity
>>> of
>>> Life Act which defined life as beginning at conception.  He does not
>>> recognize the right to privacy underlying Roe v. Wade
>>>
>>> Ron Paul would eliminate the following agencies:  The Department of 
>>> Education,  The Department of Energy, The Commerce Department, 
>>> Health and Human Services, FEMA, the Interstate Commerce Commission, 
>>> and the IRS and
>>> the Federal Reserve. He has signed a pledge not to raise taxes or create

>>> new
>>> taxes.
>>>
>>> Under Ron Paul, there would not have been any stimulus, and the auto 
>>> industry would be dead in the water.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul does not believe the government has the right to institute 
>>> an income tax on anyone.  He has indicated he would support a flat 
>>> 10% tax, or a national sales tax, both of which are regressive and 
>>> would have a greater
>>> impact on the poor and middle class.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul opposes any government interference with the free market, 
>>> especially any new regulations on Wall Street.
>>>
>>> Ron Paul:
>>>
>>> Does not believe in the separation of church and state.
>>>
>>> Thinks school prayer should be allowed (but not mandatory)
>>>
>>> Thinks the left "hates religion"
>>>
>>> Introduced a bill that would allow pilots to carry guns on planes.
>>>
>>> Introduce a bill making flag burning illegal.
>>>
>>> Does not support any gun regulations, even against assault rifles.
>>>
>>> Thinks the census collects information that is none of the 
>>> government's business
>>>
>>> Opposed renewal of the Voting Rights Act.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> Director, Sarapis Foundation
>> devin at sarapisfoundation.org
>> @devinbalkind
>>
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