[P2P-F] Buchanan

Tue Dec 27 19:53:13 CET 2011

A single particular item? I described THREE egregious distortions. There
were more in the particular book I was looking at but there was no point
beating a dead horse. For the broader context of "the forest", you need to
read Martin Jay's essay from Salmagundi "*Dialectic of
Counter-Enlightenment: The Frankfurt School as Scapegoat of the Lunatic
Fringe*" that presents extensive documentation (including first-hand
experience) of William S. Lind's (Buchanan's friend and source) spurious
documentary:

http://cms.skidmore.edu/salmagundi/backissues/168-169/martin-jay-frankfurt-school-as-scapegoat.cfm

See also "The Frankfurt School, Right-Wing Conspiracy Theories, and
American Conservatism":

http://us-intellectual-history.blogspot.com/2011/07/frankfurt-school-right-wing-conspiracy.html

"...your concerns are obviously ideologically driven."

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Natalie Golovin <10natalie at cox.net> wrote:

>   How does misrepresentation of sources re the single particular item you
> dissected translate into SYSTEMATIC misrepresentation of his thesis-which
> asks the reader to consider whether “dying populations & immigrant
> invasions imperil....?” The book was published in 2002, and from all
> current news accounts, the majority populations in Europe are now voicing
> these concerns. I don’t remember PB’s many critics dismissing him on
> account of rampant plagiarism. If one goes to the often voluminous Notes
> section of any book and puts entries under a microscope, I would presume
> few authors would come out unscathed. You may have uprooted some of the
> trees in the forest, but the substance remains. Time will tell whether it
> will burn down, but your concerns are obviously ideologically driven.
>
>  *From:* Sandwichman <lumpoflabor at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:47 AM
> *To:* P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation at lists.ourproject.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [P2P-F] Buchanan
>
> "If I follow you correctly, Buchanan cited a source that wasn’t original."
>
> No. You don't "follow me correctly." If you read what I wrote you would
> see that I document how Buchanan SYSTEMATICALLY misrepresented his sources,
> who in turn misrepresented their sources. This is not a "technical error"
> but a technique of deception. Technically, it is called "plagiarism." Being
> a celebrity author, Buchanan's false narrative will get circulated by fans
> and admirers until it acquires the "authority" of repetition.
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Natalie Golovin <10natalie at cox.net>wrote:
>
>>   Hello Sandwichman, If I follow you correctly, Buchanan cited a source
>> that wasn’t original. Granted, he’s a political journalist, not a scholar
>> and his editor(s) are not first rate. But I see this as a technical error
>> and doesn’t carry enough weight to destroy the coherence of his opinions-
>> which are what terrify the left. Buchanan attempts to convince readers that
>> man is not centrally controlled by economic decisions. He cites the
>> offsetting ties of religion, culture/ethnicity/race, and claims in his
>> latest book, that tribalism is winning hearts & minds despite the energies
>> of academia, governments & corporations. Personally, I think people are
>> influenced by a multiplicity of factors whose weights change depending on
>> personal and external factors. And it’s intellectually dishonest to dismiss
>> an entire viewpoint based on limited documentation. I happen to respect his
>> strong stance against regime-change war & enjoy all sides of an
>> argument-which is why I remain on this mailing list.
>>
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