[P2P-F] education for self-profit ...

Tue Aug 2 11:53:08 CEST 2011

hi Karl, one remark about open source currencies ... your reasoning applies
there was well,

for example, indeed Bitcoin is designed to be a scarce, hoarded and
speculative currency, but other complementary currencies are designed for
equity, such as Time Dollars,

so neither openness, not peer to peer architectures are by themselves
sufficient,

I think for those that believe in equity and justice, we need to find the
right ways to critique hyper-capitalist solutions such as the one regarding
education,http://miiu.org/wiki/Vesting_students_as_co-owners_of_schools

I'd like to use your remark in the blog as well?

Michel

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Karl Robillard <krobillard at san.rr.com>wrote:

> On Monday, August 01, 2011 09:47:15 pm Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > It seems to me there is an emerging version of 'open' that is a
> > hyper-neoliberal one, or perhaps right-wing libertarian,
> >
> > see for example,
> > http://miiu.org/wiki/Vesting_students_as_co-owners_of_schools
> >
> > which must be about the most awful proposal for reforming education that
> > I've seen so far ...
>
>
> I usually associate openness with the concept of equal access, but that's a
> bad thing to do.  As Martin and Devin were pointing out in another thread,
> open designs do not guarantee access to resources.  It's why Stallman
> prefers
> the word 'free' rather than 'open', right?  Being open is just one part of
> the
> equation.  We must articulate the others.
>
> Openness and peer-based archetectures provide opportunity for equitable
> outcomes, but its the choices of people who engage with open systems that
> ultimately decide this.  Openness in one aspect of society does not mean
> openness in others.  A propertarian will try to leverage an open system to
> obtain more property.  This is why I don't really see the point of
> open-source
> currencies.  Replacing one monetary system with another doesn't change the
> underlying dynamics of domination.  We could also have open-source atom
> bombs.
> Intent and outcomes matter.
>
>
> -Karl
>
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