[P2P-F] is p2p akin to anarchism

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun Apr 24 09:18:48 CEST 2011


Marvin Brown's http://p2pfoundation.net/Civilizing_the_Economy is also a
sustained attempt to think beyond the primacy of property rigths,

regarding basic income not necessarily requiring centralization, here is a
system used by envangelicals (unfortunately discriminating regarding sexual
orientation) that does seem to be able to distribute finance without
recourse to a centralized administration, see
http://p2pfoundation.net/Health-Care-Sharing_Ministries

(Kat, just in case, any clarification on the above from the point of view of
'sabbath economics' could be useful)

I also personally broadly agree that any p2p approach needs to 'transcend
and include' a number of advantages of both market-based and non-market
based (like socialism) approaches,

Therefore, though we should honour historical attempts at human emancipation
by previous social movements, an equation between p2p and anarchism is not
advisabler

Thanks for the pangaia link on the topic, I will explore

Michel



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mark Janssen <dreamingforward at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Michael,
> >
> > is there any literature or ideas of how the basic income is necessarily,
> or
> > not, related to centralized systems for its organisation and
> disbursement?
>
> Centralized systems are necessary when property law trumps human need.
>  When "right to property" is made greater than "right to sleep", then
> income is necessary, because in order to sleep you have to "pay the
> man" somewhere.
>
> Basically a networked p2p system allows something greater than anarchy
> because it provides a catalyst to unite two always-appearing axiis:
> capitalism and communism.  (there's an article at pangaia.sf.net
> called "capitalism vs. communism" that explores this.)  In this way
> property law morphs into property stewardship.
>
> Hope that helps....
>
> Mark
>
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