Marvin Brown's <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Civilizing_the_Economy">http://p2pfoundation.net/Civilizing_the_Economy</a> is also a sustained attempt to think beyond the primacy of property rigths, <br><br>regarding basic income not necessarily requiring centralization, here is a system used by envangelicals (unfortunately discriminating regarding sexual orientation) that does seem to be able to distribute finance without recourse to a centralized administration, see <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Health-Care-Sharing_Ministries">http://p2pfoundation.net/Health-Care-Sharing_Ministries</a><br>
<br>(Kat, just in case, any clarification on the above from the point of view of 'sabbath economics' could be useful)<br><br>I also personally broadly agree that any p2p approach needs to 'transcend and include' a number of advantages of both market-based and non-market based (like socialism) approaches,<br>
<br>Therefore, though we should honour historical attempts at human emancipation by previous social movements, an equation between p2p and anarchism is not advisabler<br><br>Thanks for the pangaia link on the topic, I will explore<br>
<br>Michel<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mark Janssen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dreamingforward@gmail.com">dreamingforward@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dear Michael,<br>
><br>
> is there any literature or ideas of how the basic income is necessarily, or<br>
> not, related to centralized systems for its organisation and disbursement?<br>
<br>
</div>Centralized systems are necessary when property law trumps human need.<br>
�When "right to property" is made greater than "right to sleep", then<br>
income is necessary, because in order to sleep you have to "pay the<br>
man" somewhere.<br>
<br>
Basically a networked p2p system allows something greater than anarchy<br>
because it provides a catalyst to unite two always-appearing axiis:<br>
capitalism and communism. �(there's an article at <a href="http://pangaia.sf.net" target="_blank">pangaia.sf.net</a><br>
called "capitalism vs. communism" that explores this.) �In this way<br>
property law morphs into property stewardship.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps....<br>
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Mark<br>
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