[Centre] draft

Sean Cubitt sean.cubitt at unimelb.edu.au
Wed Aug 24 19:04:27 CEST 2011

Keep on adding the critical mass!


On 24/08/2011 14:44, "lw4 at soton.ac.uk" <lw4 at soton.ac.uk> wrote:

>I think that would be a very good idea now the draft is taking shape -
>Di, Nik, how shd this be done?
>Btw, had a chat with Tim at Lib Media, pretty sure he will be on board
>Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cubitt S.R. <S.R.Cubitt at soton.ac.uk>
>Sender: "p2p-centre-bounces at lists.ourproject.org"
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>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:34:26
>To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in
>theCreative Economy<p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>; Sally-Jane
>Norman<S.J.Norman at sussex.ac.uk>; Sean Cubitt<sean.cubitt at unimelb.edu.au>
>Reply-To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business
>Models in
> the Creative Economy <p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>
>Subject: Re: [Centre] draft
>We should in the meantime  - while I pile on the miles - get Nikki and the
>RIS office to start filling in governance and partnership and finance . .
>On 24/08/2011 12:09, "Warren L." <L.Warren at soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>Thanks Sean, and Sally Jane.  I like the way this is coming together - we
>>seem to be captruing the essence of Hargreaves, while not being
>>constrained by it, in a way that gives us a distinctive and potentially
>>attractive draft.
>>I've made some tiny amendments.  Both Gerhard and I work specifically on
>>business models in emergemt spaces (in different ways).  Maybe we shd
>>shout that out a little more?
>>Dr Lorraine Warren
>>Director Postgraduate Programmes
>>Senior Lecturer in Innovation
>>School of Management B2/3011
>>University of Southampton
>>Highfield campus
>>SO17 1BJ
>>Tel: + 44 (0) 2380 598972
>>skype: lwarren1759
>>twitter: @doclorraine
>>From: Sally-Jane Norman [S.J.Norman at sussex.ac.uk]
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:30 AM
>>To: Sean Cubitt; Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New
>>Business Models in the Creative Economy
>>Cc: Warren L.
>>Subject: Re: draft
>>Appended tries to ­ very succinctly - weave rhetorical concerns below
>>more pragmatically into the text. Take or leave. Lots of ideas for next
>>round in any case.
>>From: IT Services
>><s.j.norman at sussex.ac.uk<mailto:s.j.norman at sussex.ac.uk>>
>>Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:23:44 +0100
>>To: Sean Cubitt 
>><sean.cubitt at unimelb.edu.au<mailto:sean.cubitt at unimelb.edu.au>>, Group
>>working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in the
>>Creative Economy 
>><p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org<mailto:p2p-centre at lists.ourproject.org>>
>>Cc: "Warren L." <L.Warren at soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Warren at soton.ac.uk>>
>>Subject: RE: draft
>>Thanks Sean. This looks exciting. Is there any way we might emphasise the
>>Centre's role in honing UK expertise, opening it up and ensuring it's
>>fully tuned to the wealth of business practices on the rise beyond this
>>land? This is a key concern for AHRC, ESRC et al who tend to be painfully
>>retarded "Creative Britain" thinkers.  Of course we can't say that, but
>>can stress the importance of business model diversity for socio-economic
>>sustainability, and the ways this Centre might nurture social cohesion by
>>revitalising the ethos of the Commons, in a landscape scarred by
>>alienation, dispossession, non-identification, etc. Sorry for rhetorical
>>overkill but hopefully you get what I mean.
>>It might be useful to allude to Asian energies, which tend to be an
>>obsession... The UK as a crossroads for multicultural dynamics and mores,
>>inspiring its richly diversified communities with exemplary new business
>>models etc. Dunno.
>>LIberate Media - Tim Greenhalgh (Lorraine's contact and usefully
>>Southampton-loyal, Brighton based) - has also been contacted and could be
>>a good relay (information/ PR vector amongst others). Kirk Woolford would
>>readily be part of the Sussex team and has ample soft- and hardware
>>development experience, private sector (US/ Europe) and govt. / research
>>council/ TSB etc.
>>Am in your old Dundee haunt Thur-Fri  so shall will the walkers onwards.
>>Sally Jane Norman
>>Professor of Performance Technologies
>>Director, Attenborough Centre for the Creative Arts
>>Silverstone 310
>>University of Sussex
>>Brighton BN1 9RG
>>United Kingdom
>>From: Sean Cubitt
>>[sean.cubitt at unimelb.edu.au<mailto:sean.cubitt at unimelb.edu.au>]
>>Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:21 p.m.
>>To: Group working in the Centre for Copyright and New Business Models in
>>the Creative Economy
>>Cc: Warren L.; Sally-Jane Norman
>>Subject: draft
>>I sent this yesterday but the listserver bounced saying I had to many
>>The problem being that we do not yet know the total of those invovled;
>>and we have not got a way to articulate the loose grouping so far at
>>southampton with the P2P communication channels ­ Franco: when the bounce
>>reaches you, it might be as well to add the people named to the
>>circuation for this list
>>I also copy in the two people who will be working this the net phase
>>(till 2 september) whie I'm on fieldwork: Prof sally Jane Norman and Dr
>>Lorraine Warren
>>I paste the original message and the list f recipients: I sent it at
>>4.00pm BST; only three comments retrned so far, all supportive ; we have
>>also got a lot of local partners some listed who have now sent support
>>messages, important fpr our tatctical presentation
>>Dear Colleagues
>>The team asked me to to a first draft of the EoI
>>I am delighted to acknowledge the generous help of Prof Sally Jane Norman
>>from Sussex who has come aboard and been a rock
>>I've also taken the liberty of contacting more potential partners.
>>Unfoprtunately everyone else is at the beach - which is why the wild-eyed
>>trot got the job of drafting this
>>Absolutely the first draft. I've left space for additions, and of course
>>we will have to rewrite as a group
>>I may have put in too much detail on personnel; ad we may need it for a
>>more strategic expression in the section on Partnership; colleagues will
>>also I trust have theior own drums to beat as to 'orograms of work' - I
>>think  the model may be good; and I hope that we reflect the originality
>>of he proposal
>>By the way Prof Ian Hargreaves has agreed to come and give a talk at
>>Winchester in the autumn term; we are just negotiating dates with
>>Lessig to arrange a dialogue between them. Unfortunately we are not able
>>to make their dates coincide with Michel bauwens visit here in december,
>>but a ball will be very truly rolling by then
>>Technicalities: I leave to walk the Pilgrim's Way on Thirsday morning and
>>will have little or no e-mail access. Lorraine Warren
>><L.Warren at soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Warren at soton.ac.uk>> kindly offered to
>>pick up the baton during my
>>absence - I shoud be available on the 2nd of September
>>I had thought of posting on the P2P wiki or to Google Docs for editing
>>with so many hands, I'm not sure whether that is the best way:
>>recommendations would be excellent
>>With thanks
>>Matthews N.S. 
>><N.S.Matthews at soton.ac.uk<mailto:N.S.Matthews at soton.ac.uk>>; Appleby K.M.
>><K.M.Appleby at soton.ac.uk<mailto:K.M.Appleby at soton.ac.uk>>; Beales R.M.
>><richard.beales at soton.ac.uk<mailto:richard.beales at soton.ac.uk>>;
>>Brailsford S.C. 
>><S.C.Brailsford at soton.ac.uk<mailto:S.C.Brailsford at soton.ac.uk>>; Butler
>>P. <P.Butler at soton.ac.uk<mailto:P.Butler at soton.ac.uk>>; Earl G.P.
>><graeme.earl at soton.ac.uk<mailto:graeme.earl at soton.ac.uk>>; Foster S.A.
>><S.A.Foster at soton.ac.uk<mailto:S.A.Foster at soton.ac.uk>>; Harris L.J.
>><L.J.Harris at soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.J.Harris at soton.ac.uk>>; Kling G.
>><G.Kling at soton.ac.uk<mailto:G.Kling at soton.ac.uk>>; Moreau L.
>><lavm at soton.ac.uk<mailto:lavm at soton.ac.uk>>; Parikka J.
>><J.Parikka at soton.ac.uk<mailto:J.Parikka at soton.ac.uk>>; Price N.
>><N.Price at soton.ac.uk<mailto:N.Price at soton.ac.uk>>; Reynolds N.
>><N.Reynolds at soton.ac.uk<mailto:N.Reynolds at soton.ac.uk>>; Saxby S.J.
>><S.J.Saxby at soton.ac.uk<mailto:S.J.Saxby at soton.ac.uk>>; Warren L.
>><L.Warren at soton.ac.uk<mailto:L.Warren at soton.ac.uk>>; Woolley D.
>><D.Woolley at soton.ac.uk<mailto:D.Woolley at soton.ac.uk>>; Nazzini R.
>><R.Nazzini at soton.ac.uk<mailto:R.Nazzini at soton.ac.uk>>; Hannigan B.M.
>><B.M.Hannigan at soton.ac.uk<mailto:B.M.Hannigan at soton.ac.uk>>; Reid E.S.
>><E.S.REID at soton.ac.uk<mailto:E.S.REID at soton.ac.uk>>; White W.H.
>><whw at soton.ac.uk<mailto:whw at soton.ac.uk>>; Sally-Jane Norman
>><S.J.Norman at sussex.ac.uk<mailto:S.J.Norman at sussex.ac.uk>>
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