[kune-devel] Fwd: Re: The Future of FedOne

Mon Aug 9 19:40:25 CEST 2010

Joder quÃ© buen rollo el movimiento...

Por cierto, quÃ© es OT?

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:07, Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado <vruiz.jurado en gmail.com
> wrote:

> FYI (Nota: FedOne es el servidor Wave liberado por Google y que integrÃ©
> en en Kune tambiÃ©n de forma muy sencilla).
>
> Abrazos,
>
> Vicente
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: The Future of FedOne
> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:42:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: antwatkins <awatkins03 en gmail.com>
> Reply-To: wave-protocol en googlegroups.com
> To: Wave Protocol <wave-protocol en googlegroups.com>
>
> Great discussions.  As expected the comments have ranged wide and far,
> so Iâ€™m putting a summary below.  I will update the wave (https://
> wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+Q_-a_E3kB ) in a more
> organized manner than a single forum thread can accomplish (with
> attribution to the various authors), but I encourage people to
> continue to post any idea here that contributes to how we move
> forward.  Think of the Wave as a summary of this thread for now or a
> place you can carry on a threaded conversation around a specific
> topic.
>
> Of course a major element absent this discussion is the commitment
> Google will provide, if they will donate the code, or the mode of
> operation they see from this point.  At the very least I think we have
> shown we have a vibrant community capable and ready to ensure the
> continuation of the principles and code forwarded by the Wave
> technology.  Hopefully this will influence the decisions Google makes
> within the coming days/weeks and encourage them to continue to release
> code and dedicate resources to this effort.
>
> Summary of Thread so Far
>
> How Community and Google can continue this effort
> - Google donates code to a Foundation (like Apache or one we start)
> who has responsibility for specs and protocols [James Purser, Douglas
> Linder, David Butler, Andrus ?]
> - Contact companies and organizations that have vested resources in
> this tech like Novell, SAP, Pygowave, Ruby on Sails, Process One
> [James Purser, Thomas Wrobel]
> - Establish a forum or area for people currently work on WFP servers
> to foster collaboration [Thomas Wrobel]
> - Establish a consortium to pool resources and make recommendations
> for protocols and way forward [Anthony Watkins]
>
> How to garner more participation
> - create sandbox environment for contributions that have yet or will
> not make it through official review [Anthony Watkins]
> - focus on federation (as soon as there are a few clients, servers,
> and GUIs communicating on standard power of WFP will come across)
> [Thomas Wrobel]
> - reduce dependency on OT as a requirement to federate [Ian Roughley,
> Christopher Harvey]
> - promote a summer of code centered around wave with small (but not
> insignificant) funding to students and research groups [Douglas
> Linder]
> - Use Apache since they have the advantage of good exposure and org
> structure installs confidence. [David Butler]
> - focus on developing domain specific application, even without
> Federation in a first step [Andreas ?]
>
> Suggestions for the Code
> - combine/link wave data api and FedOne [Anthony Watkins]
> - slick client like Splash [Anthony Watkins]
> - need fully featured non-buggy editor that is available to all of
> community off-the-self [Ian Roughley]
> - slightly different protocol that allows for federation of existing
> non-real-time content as well as real-time content and federating any
> type of content (avoiding need for significant code changes of
> existing infrastructure) [Ian Roughley]
> - use Git or GoogleCode or Mecurial [Brett Morgan, James Purser,
> Joseph Gentle, Brian May]
> - Add abstraction layer over the OT stack allowing for OT on different
> data types [Joseph Gentle
> - look at TP2 or TTF[1] [Joseph Gentle]
>
> On Aug 6, 9:20 am, Dave butlerdi <butle... en gmail.com> wrote:
> > This project will require a good deal of effort and the input of a wide
> > range of developers.
> > That could easily be realised at Apache, as well as cross polination from
> > and to other
> > projects. Plus the Labs at Apache could be useful.
> >
> > I for one like Wave for its possibilities in the area of collaboration
> > between large numbers
> > of autonomous agents and humans, not so interested in the social aspect.
> >
> > But I love processWave : )
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On 6 August 2010 14:53, andrus <aadamc... en gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> >
> > > what about actually setting this up as an Apache incubator project as
> > > suggested by Dave Butler already in this thread? Apache is an
> > > established foundation and has stable and scleable infrastructure (the
> > > only current issue is you can only use git on the client, but the repo
> > > is SVN). More importantly, Apache has a process for vendor-neutral
> > > collaboration on code that ensures equality of all participants, be it
> > > developers from Google or another big Co, a small company or
> > > individuals.
> >
> > > As a Wave enthusiast and a member of the Apache Software Foundation,
> > > I'd love to see those two to come together :-) I'll be happy to answer
> > > any questions about the process and life at Apache, and will be happy
> > > to champion and mentor any proposal coming from the Wave community.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Andrus Adamchik
> >
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> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Dave Butler
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