<div dir="ltr">Joder qué buen rollo el movimiento...<br><br>Por cierto, qué es OT?<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:07, Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vruiz.jurado@gmail.com">vruiz.jurado@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">FYI (Nota: FedOne es el servidor Wave liberado por Google y que integré<br>
en en Kune también de forma muy sencilla).<br>
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Abrazos,<br>
<br>
Vicente<br>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: The Future of FedOne<br>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:42:43 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: antwatkins <<a href="mailto:awatkins03@gmail.com">awatkins03@gmail.com</a>><br>
Reply-To: <a href="mailto:wave-protocol@googlegroups.com">wave-protocol@googlegroups.com</a><br>
To: Wave Protocol <<a href="mailto:wave-protocol@googlegroups.com">wave-protocol@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
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Great discussions. As expected the comments have ranged wide and far,<br>
so I’m putting a summary below. I will update the wave (https://<br>
<a href="http://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+Q_-a_E3kB" target="_blank">wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+Q_-a_E3kB</a> ) in a more<br>
organized manner than a single forum thread can accomplish (with<br>
attribution to the various authors), but I encourage people to<br>
continue to post any idea here that contributes to how we move<br>
forward. Think of the Wave as a summary of this thread for now or a<br>
place you can carry on a threaded conversation around a specific<br>
topic.<br>
<br>
Of course a major element absent this discussion is the commitment<br>
Google will provide, if they will donate the code, or the mode of<br>
operation they see from this point. At the very least I think we have<br>
shown we have a vibrant community capable and ready to ensure the<br>
continuation of the principles and code forwarded by the Wave<br>
technology. Hopefully this will influence the decisions Google makes<br>
within the coming days/weeks and encourage them to continue to release<br>
code and dedicate resources to this effort.<br>
<br>
Summary of Thread so Far<br>
<br>
How Community and Google can continue this effort<br>
- Google donates code to a Foundation (like Apache or one we start)<br>
who has responsibility for specs and protocols [James Purser, Douglas<br>
Linder, David Butler, Andrus ?]<br>
- Contact companies and organizations that have vested resources in<br>
this tech like Novell, SAP, Pygowave, Ruby on Sails, Process One<br>
[James Purser, Thomas Wrobel]<br>
- Establish a forum or area for people currently work on WFP servers<br>
to foster collaboration [Thomas Wrobel]<br>
- Establish a consortium to pool resources and make recommendations<br>
for protocols and way forward [Anthony Watkins]<br>
<br>
How to garner more participation<br>
- create sandbox environment for contributions that have yet or will<br>
not make it through official review [Anthony Watkins]<br>
- focus on federation (as soon as there are a few clients, servers,<br>
and GUIs communicating on standard power of WFP will come across)<br>
[Thomas Wrobel]<br>
- reduce dependency on OT as a requirement to federate [Ian Roughley,<br>
Christopher Harvey]<br>
- promote a summer of code centered around wave with small (but not<br>
insignificant) funding to students and research groups [Douglas<br>
Linder]<br>
- Use Apache since they have the advantage of good exposure and org<br>
structure installs confidence. [David Butler]<br>
- focus on developing domain specific application, even without<br>
Federation in a first step [Andreas ?]<br>
<br>
Suggestions for the Code<br>
- combine/link wave data api and FedOne [Anthony Watkins]<br>
- slick client like Splash [Anthony Watkins]<br>
- need fully featured non-buggy editor that is available to all of<br>
community off-the-self [Ian Roughley]<br>
- slightly different protocol that allows for federation of existing<br>
non-real-time content as well as real-time content and federating any<br>
type of content (avoiding need for significant code changes of<br>
existing infrastructure) [Ian Roughley]<br>
- use Git or GoogleCode or Mecurial [Brett Morgan, James Purser,<br>
Joseph Gentle, Brian May]<br>
- Add abstraction layer over the OT stack allowing for OT on different<br>
data types [Joseph Gentle<br>
- look at TP2 or TTF[1] [Joseph Gentle]<br>
<br>
On Aug 6, 9:20 am, Dave butlerdi <<a href="mailto:butle...@gmail.com">butle...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> This project will require a good deal of effort and the input of a wide<br>
> range of developers.<br>
> That could easily be realised at Apache, as well as cross polination from<br>
> and to other<br>
> projects. Plus the Labs at Apache could be useful.<br>
><br>
> I for one like Wave for its possibilities in the area of collaboration<br>
> between large numbers<br>
> of autonomous agents and humans, not so interested in the social aspect.<br>
><br>
> But I love processWave : )<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> On 6 August 2010 14:53, andrus <<a href="mailto:aadamc...@gmail.com">aadamc...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> > Hi guys,<br>
><br>
> > what about actually setting this up as an Apache incubator project as<br>
> > suggested by Dave Butler already in this thread? Apache is an<br>
> > established foundation and has stable and scleable infrastructure (the<br>
> > only current issue is you can only use git on the client, but the repo<br>
> > is SVN). More importantly, Apache has a process for vendor-neutral<br>
> > collaboration on code that ensures equality of all participants, be it<br>
> > developers from Google or another big Co, a small company or<br>
> > individuals.<br>
><br>
> > As a Wave enthusiast and a member of the Apache Software Foundation,<br>
> > I'd love to see those two to come together :-) I'll be happy to answer<br>
> > any questions about the process and life at Apache, and will be happy<br>
> > to champion and mentor any proposal coming from the Wave community.<br>
><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Andrus Adamchik<br>
><br>
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> > For more options, visit this group at<br>
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> --<br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
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