[JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
Mathieu ONeil
mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
Sat Aug 19 01:35:41 CEST 2017
Hi Angela, all
Thanks. This sounds good. Unless someone objects and more discussion is needed - let us say, within 72 hours of this message being posted on the list? - I will go ahead and make the changes.
I will let DOAJ know and report to the list when the changes have been made.
cheers
Mathieu
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From: JoPP-Public <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org> on behalf of Angela Daly <angela.daly at qut.edu.au>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 19:12
To: Stefan Meretz; Journal of Peer Production's general and public list; Steve Collins
Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
Dear all,
I would advocate a CC-BY-NC-ND licence for the following reasons:
- we ensure authors are properly attributed (ensuring the moral right rather than economic right)
- we ensure that if the articles are reproduced, they are not done so in a modified form without seeking the authors' consent (again, ensuring the moral right to the integrity of the work)
- we ensure that no-one can make a profit out of the articles
Legally speaking, putting something into the 'public domain' before the expiry of the copyright term doesn't make a lot of sense. This is not an adequate situation, but we currently lack clear mechanisms to do this in a legal sense.
Happy to talk about this more.
Thanks,
Angela
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From: Stefan Meretz [mailto:stefan at meretz.de]
Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017 6:14 PM
To: Journal of Peer Production's general and public list <jopp-public at lists.ourproject.org>; Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>
Cc: Angela Daly <angela.daly at qut.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
No. Why not stay with PD? Explicitly done via https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/
Or with any other free cultural work license:
https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/freeworks/
Best,
Stefan
Am 17.08.2017 um 09:55 schrieb Mathieu ONeil:
> Hi all
>
>
> Does everyone agree?
>
>
> Also do we declare we use CCA-NC-etc like below?
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> Mathieu
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> *From:* Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 17:48
> *To:* Journal of Peer Production's general and public list; Mathieu
> ONeil
> *Cc:* angela.daly at qut.edu.au
> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
> Journal of Peer Production
>
> Hi
>
> Yeah, that's it. I know that Shima is registered with DOAJ too and I
> assume that its text was acceptable so perhaps we can appropriate?
>
> Cheers
> Steve
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 at 5:44 pm, Mathieu ONeil
> <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve, all
>
>
> For Shima they say the following (amongst many other things - some
> good ideas we could use, if we wanted) - is this what you mean?
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> Mathieu
>
>
> The journal is licenced under a Creative Commons
> Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License
> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/>. Articles
> accepted for publication in /Shima/ may be posted in open access
> repositories and/or on author’s personal research pages upon
> completion of the journal’s proofing processes in the form supplied
> to the authors (and identified as forthcoming).
>
> [...]
>
> Manuscripts which have been published as copyrighted material
> elsewhere cannot be submitted. In addition, manuscripts under review
> by the journal should not be resubmitted to copyrighted
> publications. However, by submitting a manuscript, the author(s)
> retain the rights to the published material
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* JoPP-Public <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org
> <mailto:jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org>> on behalf of
> Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
> <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 15:38
> *To:* Steve Collins
> *Cc:* angela.daly at qut.edu.au <mailto:angela.daly at qut.edu.au>;
> Journal list
>
> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
> Journal of Peer Production
>
>
> Hi Steve, all
>
>
> In the black block at the bottom of every webpage it says on the
> right (in grey so quite hard to read):
>
>
> "Journal of Peer Production - ISSN: 2213-5316
> All the contents of this journal are in the public domain."
>
> cheers
> Mathieu
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au
> <mailto:stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 15:01
>
> *To:* Mathieu ONeil
> *Cc:* Journal list; angela.daly at qut.edu.au
> <mailto:angela.daly at qut.edu.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to DOAJ:
> Journal of Peer Production
> Well, in my experience I've not heard of any uni enforcing its
> rights and restricting authors (I'm sure it's happened to someone,
> somewhere though :P).
>
> Sorry Mathieu, I'm, a little unclear on what you meant by 'now it
> just says "all pubs in public domain"' - what says that? JoPP?
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Mathieu ONeil
> <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve, all
>
>
> We had a lot of discussion about (c) in the beginning and
> adopted I think CC-BY-SA ? but now it just says "all pubs in
> public domain".
>
>
> I guess we need to stay true to our free software roots somehow,
> so not sure about the uni/author nexus...?
>
>
> Others?
>
> cheers
>
> Mathieu
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Steve Collins <stephen.collins at mq.edu.au
> <mailto:stephen.collins at mq.edu.au>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:52
> *To:* Mathieu ONeil
> *Cc:* Journal list; angela.daly at qut.edu.au
> <mailto:angela.daly at qut.edu.au>
> *Subject:* Re: [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to
> DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
>
> Hi Mathieu
>
> What's JoPP's current arrangement with copyrights - is there a
> current arrangement? I'm guessing that authors don't agree to
> anything when they submit an article to JoPP. We'll need to
> implement something for the future - but also need to work on
> what to do with work that's already been published. To add
> complexity to the situation it's usual for universities to own
> the IP in academics' work.
>
> I spoke to a colleague who manages an online journal that is
> registered with DOAJ, and their (c) statement is quite brief but
> might provide a template? http://shimajournal.org/index.php
> Publication Details - Shima: The International Journal of ...
> <http://shimajournal.org/index.php>
> shimajournal.org <http://shimajournal.org>
> Shima is a SCOPUS registered peer-refereed academic journal that
> is published twice a year in open access online form and has
> been registered with the Directory of ...
>
>
>
>
> cheers
> steve
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Mathieu ONeil
> <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> Hi all, again
>
>
> To help move things along here are the two places on the
> journal site where text could be amended. I realise some of
> you may be enjoying the /dolce far niente/of the Northern
> summer, but, well...
>
>
> I've made the required changes to the low-hanging fruit
> i.e. article processing charges and open access [in bold] below.
>
>
> However for this next requirement I am less certain; where
> exactly do we stand on author copyright? Steve and Angela,
> I'm looking at you! 😊
>
> "Your application also stated that the author does not hold
> the copyright without restrictions, and does not retain
> publishing rights without restrictions. However, I could not
> find any information about the copyright transfer
> requirement, or an indication of the rights holder for a
> published paper. This signals a lack of transparency in the
> authoring and publishing process. If you send me a link
> where this information can be found, I can update
> your DOAJ application."
>
>
>
> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=
>
> <http://peerproduction.net/about/mission-statement/>
>
>
> Mission Statement
> The Journal of Peer Production (JoPP) seeks high-quality
> contributions from researchers and practitioners of peer
> production. We understand peer production as a mode of
> commons-based and oriented production in which participation
> is voluntary and predicated on the self-selection of tasks.
> Notable examples are the collaborative development of Free
> Software projects and of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia.
> Through the analysis of the forms, operations, and
> contradictions of peer producing communities in contemporary
> capitalist society, the journal aims to open up new
> perspectives on the implications of peer production for
> social change.
> Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: [etc]
>
> CHANGE TO =>
>
> Mission Statement
> The Journal of Peer Production (JoPP) seeks high-quality
> contributions from researchers and practitioners of peer
> production. We understand peer production as a mode of
> commons-based and oriented production in which participation
> is voluntary and predicated on the self-selection of tasks.
> Notable examples are the collaborative development of Free
> Software projects and of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia.
> Through the analysis of the forms, operations, and
> contradictions of peer producing communities in contemporary
> capitalist society, the journal aims to open up new
> perspectives on the implications of peer production for
> social change.
> *The Journal of Peer Production is an open access academic
> journal that allows readers to read, download, copy,
> distribute, print, search, and link to the full texts of
> articles, or use them for any other lawful purpose except
> where otherwise noted.*
> Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: [etc]
>
>
> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=
>
> <http://peerproduction.net/about/submissions/>
>
> How to submit to the Journal of Peer Production
> JoPP will be published twice a year. All scientific
> contributions will be peer reviewed.
> If you have a question about the suitability of your
> contribution to JoPP, please contact the editorial team by
> posting to the (not publicly archived) editorial team
> mailing list: jopp [dash] editorial [at] lists [dot]
> ourproject [dot] org
> Once papers have been accepted, it is the author’s
> responsibility to format them in accordance with our
> specifications.
>
> CHANGE TO =>
>
> How to submit to the Journal of Peer Production
> *No article processing charges (APCs**) or article
> submission charges are required to publish in JoPP.*
> JoPP will be published twice a year. All scientific
> contributions will be peer reviewed.
> If you have a question about the suitability of your
> contribution to JoPP, please contact the editorial team by
> posting to the (not publicly archived) editorial team
> mailing list: jopp [dash] editorial [at] lists [dot]
> ourproject [dot] org
> Once papers have been accepted, it is the author’s
> responsibility to format them in accordance with our
> specifications.
>
>
> =-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=
>
> cheers,
> Mathieu
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* JoPP-Public
> <jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org
> <mailto:jopp-public-bounces at lists.ourproject.org>> on behalf
> of Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
> <mailto:mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:44
> *To:* Journal list
> *Subject:* [JoPP-Public] Fw: Your journal application to
> DOAJ: Journal of Peer Production
>
>
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Response from DOAJ FYI. I guess we need to be more explicit
> in our language. Does anyone have thoughts on the below?
>
> cheers
>
> Mathieu
>
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> *From:* Rhonda Marker <rmarker at rutgers.edu
> <mailto:rmarker at rutgers.edu>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:24
> *To:* Mathieu ONeil
> *Cc:* Rhonda Marker
> *Subject:* Your journal application to DOAJ: Journal of Peer
> Production
>
>
> Dear Dr. O’Neil,
>
>
>
> I am one of the volunteer Associate Editors at Directory of
> Open Access Journals (DOAJ). I am currently processing your
> application for Journal of Peer Production to be included in
> DOAJ.
>
>
>
> Your application states that you do not have article
> processing charges (APCs) or article submission charges.
> However, the link you gave where this information can be
> found does not mention APCs or submission charges. In order
> to be included in DOAJ, you must explicitly state that you
> do not have such charges.
>
>
>
> One of the requirements for entry into DOAJ is that your
> journal website must include an open access statement. The
> link provided on the application,
> http://peerproduction.net/, does not have a statement. I
> would like to suggest that you take a look at some of the
> journals that are currently in DOAJ. /Film Criticism/ has a
> brief, clear statement about open access that also describes
> how readers can use the content:
> http://www.filmcriticismjournal.org/about.html Using such a
> statement would also fulfill another requirements for
> inclusion in DOAJ: stating your license or use terms for the
> reader.
>
>
>
>
>
> Your application also stated that the author does not hold
> the copyright without restrictions, and does not retain
> publishing rights without restrictions. However, I could not
> find any information about the copyright transfer
> requirement, or an indication of the rights holder for a
> published paper. This signals a lack of transparency in the
> authoring and publishing process. If you send me a link
> where this information can be found, I can update your DOAJ
> application.
>
>
>
> I look forward to hearing from you soon.
>
>
>
> Rhonda Marker
>
>
>
>
>
> Rhonda J. Marker
>
> Director of Shared User Services
>
> Rutgers University Libraries
>
> Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey
>
> p: 848-932-5923 <tel:%28848%29%20932-5923>
>
> rmarker at rutgers.edu <mailto:rmarker at rutgers.edu>
>
> ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0002-7635-816X
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Dr Steve Collins*
> Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
> Department of Media, Music, Communication & Cultural Studies
> Macquarie University
>
> P: (02) 9850 2165
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> L: Y3A 191D
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Dr Steve Collins*
> Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
> Department of Media, Music, Communication & Cultural Studies
> Macquarie University
>
> P: (02) 9850 2165
> W: http://bit.ly/122QivW
> L: Y3A 191D
>
> --
> *Dr Steve Collins*
> Senior Lecturer in Multimedia
> Department of Media, Music, Communication & Cultural Studies Macquarie
> University
>
> P: (02) 9850 2165
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> L: Y3A 191D
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