[implementations-list] Off topic [was Re: The "{Saved, Deleted} N characters" messages gone with `yy'/`dd']

Thu Apr 15 23:45:23 CEST 2010

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 09:10:30PM +0000, Vegard Øye wrote:
> 
> > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:28:33 +0200
> > From: stepnem at gmail.com
> >
> >> × is included in ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1), so it should be quite safe
> >> anyway, Unicode or no Unicode.
> >
> > "Safe"? As if we weren't fighting with shitty software all the time.
> 
> Emacs is not shitty software. :)

Granted.

> > And the nice advantage of UTF-8 is that it's ASCII-compatible --
> > i.e. as long as it does not contain codepoints above 127, problems
> > never occur.
> 
> I think that's nice too, but Asians complain because their characters
> are encoded as multi-byte all the way, increasing the file size.
> (Us Norwegians only encounter multi-byte with Ææ Øø Åå, so we get a
> much nicer deal. Of course, UTF-8 doesn't save us from the madness of
> the Norwegian QWERTY layout.)

Sure. And with UTF-16, you get two bytes for any character up to 0xFFFF,
if I'm not mistaken. Plus the null char and byte order problems. But
we're getting *really* off topic here :-)

> Thanks for the tip. So I guess it's either "commit [2c87f791af]" or
> "revision [2c87f791af]". What sounds best? (The brackets are for
> consistency with Trac.)