[PeDAGoG] [REDlistserve] A new article on the RED website - "The path to a just and sustainable society"

Wed Sep 29 15:14:38 CEST 2021

I would be concerned, living in such a world, if I needed life-saving
medical services from vaccines to heart surgery. Similarly, I would be
concerned without universities, research and technology which has given us
solar panels, broadband internet and similar which is imbedded in much of
what we use on a daily basis. The Buddhist Gross Happiness Index ponders
these issues.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 7:20 PM Ariel Salleh <arielsalleh7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice point Carlos.
> Considering how states are historically sex-gendered institutions may
> offer a way forward that mediates yours and Ted’s position …?
> Ariel
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> On 28 Sep 2021, at 6:58 am, Carlos Tornel <tornelc at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all and thanks Pallav for sharing this article!
>
> I'm relatively new on some of the lists, but I thought I could share some
> thoughts after the reading.
>
> I found the article quite useful for thinking about how we can start to
> build a post (growth, capitalism, extractive, etc.) society. I have faced
> similar questions and concerns when advocating for a convivial or a
> communal society in different spaces, such as what do we do with state
> power? With armies, the military, nuclear weapons, etc.? How do we move
> away from the Hobbian reality of power and the state? Several of the
> anarchist and degrowth proponentes (although not so many have looked
> seriously at this link until recently) have formulated proposals against
> this, i.e. try to reduce our dependence on the state and progressively move
> away from it. However this brings back the debate we've been having for
> some time now in Latin America, should we seek to take back the state or
> not? My own opinion is that we should, through several of the proposals
> presented in the article, such as food and energy sovereignty, we can
> progressively start to move away from the state, leading towards more
> convivial societies. However it does seem that the state will have to play
> a part in this transition, so perhaps we need to think of the transition
> from one society to another in different scales and with different
> agencies: I.e. What should we ask from the state? What can we do ourselves
> in local and communal terms and how can we continue to build networks of
> solidarity or communitarian entanglements at the regional, and even global
> level.
>
> My thanks again Pallav for sharing and to Ted for a very insightful and
> useful analysis.
>
> Best,
>
> Carlos
>
> El sáb, 25 sept 2021 a las 5:06, Pallav Das (<dpallav at gmail.com>)
> escribió:
> The "eco-anarchist" transition strategy relies on “prefiguring” the new
> social forms in the existing society. The most effective way to get people
> to see the sense and the merits of the new ways is to establish as many
> examples of them as possible here and now. This approach minimizes the
> chances of violent conflict; if we persuade large numbers to the
> alternative then radical change in structures might be brought about
> peacefully.
>
>
>
> Friends,
>
> A new article, "The path to a just and sustainable society" has been
> uploaded to the "Radical Ecological Democracy" website. In the second part
> of his discussion on “Eco-anarchism”, Ted Trainer lays out the core
> characteristics of a post consumer capitalist society, operating on the
> principles of “The Simpler Way”.  Please share the article with your
> networks and join the discussion on REDlistserv. The author is copied here
> in case you would like to contact him directly.
>
>
> https://www.radicalecologicaldemocracy.org/the-path-to-a-just-and-sustainable-society/
>
> Best,
>
> Pallav
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