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kernel image and boot loader) and
u can mount the SoC filesystem via NFS, is that correct ? As we can see in
the figure:
http://stlinux.com/sites/default/files/linux_install.gif

And later in the same site:

   1.

   Generate an exported network file system on the host PC. This file system
   will become the root file system of the SoC platform.
   2.

   Start an NFS server on the host PC to give the SoC platform access to its
   root file system.
   3.

   Load the SoC kernel image into the SoC platform RAM.

Thanks again for your help, im finishing my masters and i wanna test the
software
in a real world environment.

Bruno Seabra Mendon=C3=A7a Lima
--------------
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Mestrando da PUC-Rio
Pesquisador Laborat=C3=B3rio Telemidia (PUC-Rio)
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2011/2/8 Ezequiel Garc=C3=ADa <elezegarcia at yahoo.com.ar>

> Bruno,
>
>
> Do you have a ST 7105 platform ? You will need a development kit platform
> with 7105 chip, and access through serial port. Once you have that, you n=
eed
> the same as any PC based Linux OS needs:
>
> 1. Boot loader
>
> 2. Kernel
>
> 3. Minimum filesystem
>
> 4. Shell
>
>
> If you have purchased a development kit, then you should be able to ask f=
or
> support at STLinux: http://stlinux.com/.
>
> Once you have all of this, you can cross-compile anything, from wget to
> Ginga.ar, and make it runnable on the 7105.
>
>
> Hope it helps, keep in mind the embedded world it is not an easy one.
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Ezequiel.
>
> --- El *mar 8-feb-11, Bruno Seabra Lima <bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br>*esc=
ribi=C3=B3:
>
>
> De: Bruno Seabra Lima <bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br>
> Asunto: Re: [Ginga-argentina] Instalar Ginga en un STB
> Para: "Lista de la comunidad argentina de Ginga" <
> ginga-argentina at lists.ourproject.org>
> Fecha: martes, 8 de febrero de 2011, 17:07
>
>
> Well,
> As far as i know u need a host pc to cross-compile ginga,
> in this host u need to install the STLinux (
> http://www.stlinux.com/install/distribution/introduction)
> I'm still reading the STlinux documentation ..
> Thanks and good luck for us :D
>
> Bruno Seabra Mendon=C3=A7a Lima
> --------------
> Bacharel em Ci=C3=AAncia da Computa=C3=A7=C3=A3o - UFMA
> Mestrando da PUC-Rio
> Pesquisador Laborat=C3=B3rio Telemidia (PUC-Rio)
> Pesquisador Colaborador LAWS (UFMA)
> Pesquisador/Desenvolvedor Intacto Software
> -------------
> www.bslima.com
>
>
> 2011/2/8 Felipe Fabio <felipe.fabio at emcitec.cl<http://mc/compose?to=3Dfel=
ipe.fabio at emcitec.cl>
> >
>
> Como bien dice Bruno, el documento no tiene nada relacionado a instalar en
> un STB real.
> He enviado un mail a la empresa que le compr=C3=A9 el STB para que me den=
 los
> datos que me
> describieron porque en la caja y en los documentos que ven=C3=ADan no dic=
e nada.
>
> Bruno, y como te fue en tu intento de instalar ginga en un ST7105?
>
> Alguien que haya tenido =C3=A9xito en esta tarea que comente algunos paso=
s a
> seguir.
>
> Saludos!
>
>
> El 8 de febrero de 2011 15:10, Bruno Seabra Lima <
> bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br<http://mc/[email protected]=
io.br>
> > escribi=C3=B3:
>
> Lo sento por publicar en Ingl=C3=A9s, pero mi espa=C3=B1ol es muy d=C3=A9=
bil
>
> But this document doesn't have anything to do with embebed software.
> I am also trying to embebed the ginga in a ST7105 chip ...
> Does anyone has some guidelines ?
> I really appreciate ..
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bruno Seabra Mendon=C3=A7a Lima
> --------------
> Bacharel em Ci=C3=AAncia da Computa=C3=A7=C3=A3o - UFMA
> Mestrando da PUC-Rio
> Pesquisador Laborat=C3=B3rio Telemidia (PUC-Rio)
> Pesquisador Colaborador LAWS (UFMA)
> Pesquisador/Desenvolvedor Intacto Software
> -------------
> www.bslima.com
>
>
> 2011/2/8 Mario I. Rinaldi <mirinaldi at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=3Dmir=
inaldi at gmail.com>
> >
>
> Hola Felipe:
> Bajate este interesante documento realizado por los amigos de Ginga Per=
=C3=BA.
>
> http://www.ginga.org.pe:8080/ginga/doc_template/pdf/Informe_Ginga_2010_AA=
T.pdf
> Aqu=C3=AD vas a encontrar informaci=C3=B3n al respecto.
> Espero te sea de utilidad.
>
> Saludos a todos.
>
> Mario Rinaldi
>
> El 8 de febrero de 2011 12:51, Fernando Cassia <fcassia at gmail.com<http://=
mc/compose?to=3Dfcassia at gmail.com>
> > escribi=C3=B3:
>
> 2011/2/8 Felipe Fabio <felipe.fabio at emcitec.cl<http://mc/compose?to=3Dfel=
ipe.fabio at emcitec.cl>
> >:
> > Hola amigos,
> > Quiero intentar de instalar Ginga en un STB real, pero no he encontrado
> > informaci=C3=B3n de como lograr esto,
> > ustedes tienen alg=C3=BAn tutorial de como hacerlo? o me pueden explica=
r.
> > Estoy tratando de conseguirme la especificaci=C3=B3n t=C3=A9cnica para =
que ustedes
> me
> > digan si es que se puede
> > instalar ginga en un STB con las caracter=C3=ADsticas que tiene el m=C3=
=ADo. A=C3=BAn
> as=C3=AD
> > me servir=C3=ADa un tutorial.
> > Muchas gracias por su ayuda.
>
> El mundo embebido no es como el de las PCs x86 donde s=C3=B3lo "lo baj=C3=
=A1s e
> instal=C3=A1s". Primero ten=C3=A9s que saber qu=C3=A9 CPU tiene tu set to=
p box, si es
> arquitectura ARM o MIPS, por ejemplo, cu=C3=A1nta memoria RAM tiene, qu=
=C3=A9
> otro hardware (chipset de red, etc), y si el Linux tiene drivers para
> =C3=A9l.
>
> Lo primero que tendr=C3=ADas que conseguir, es una forma de conectarte a =
tu
> set tob box (via serie o red) y ver si ten=C3=A9s acceso al shell. Si ya
> ten=C3=A9s acceso a la l=C3=ADnea de comandos de Linux (si es que corre L=
inux,
> podr=C3=ADa ser un S.O. propietario como VxWorks), todo lo dem=C3=A1s se =
puede
> averiguar m=C3=A1s f=C3=A1cil sin necesidad de abrir el STB y andar con u=
na lupa
> identificando chipsets...
>
> Saludos,
> FC
>
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Hi Ezequiel,<div>Thanks for the answers, i have two STB with the 7105 ST ch=
ip, i have entered in contact with ST,</div><div>and they told me i dont ne=
ed a development kit to start develop software to this plataform,</div><div>
once i had the STB with the chip.</div><div><br></div><div>I am very intere=
sting tough in buy this developer kit if i have the support, do u can pass =
me=C2=A0</div><div>some contact or website i should go to proceed ?</div><d=
iv>
<br></div><div>From what i am reading, u have a host PC with STLinux cross-=
compile (with kernel image and boot loader) and</div><div>u can mount the S=
oC filesystem via NFS, is that correct ? As we can see in the figure:</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://stlinux.com/sites/default/files/linux_install.gif">h=
ttp://stlinux.com/sites/default/files/linux_install.gif</a></div><div><br><=
/div><div>And later in the same site:</div><meta charset=3D"utf-8"><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 12px; line-height: 16px; "><ol type=3D"1" style=3D"margin-top: 0.75em; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.25em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0p=
x; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">
<li style=3D"margin-top: 0.15em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.15em; =
margin-left: 2em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.3=
em; padding-left: 0px; "><p style=3D"margin-top: 0.6em; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0p=
x; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">
Generate an exported network file system on the host PC. This file system w=
ill become the root file system of the SoC platform.</p></li><li style=3D"m=
argin-top: 0.15em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.15em; margin-left: 2=
em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0.3em; padding-le=
ft: 0px; ">
<p style=3D"margin-top: 0.6em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; mar=
gin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; p=
adding-left: 0px; ">Start an NFS server on the host PC to give the SoC plat=
form access to its root file system.</p>
</li><li style=3D"margin-top: 0.15em; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.1=
5em; margin-left: 2em; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom=
: 0.3em; padding-left: 0px; "><p style=3D"margin-top: 0.6em; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 1.2em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-righ=
t: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">
Load the SoC kernel image into the SoC platform RAM.</p></li></ol></span><d=
iv>Thanks again for your help, im finishing my masters and i wanna test the=
 software</div><div>in a real world=C2=A0environment.</div><div>=C2=A0<br c=
lear=3D"all">
Bruno Seabra Mendon=C3=A7a Lima<br>--------------<br>Bacharel em Ci=C3=AAnc=
ia da Computa=C3=A7=C3=A3o - UFMA<br>Mestrando da PUC-Rio<br>Pesquisador La=
borat=C3=B3rio Telemidia (PUC-Rio)<br>Pesquisador Colaborador LAWS (UFMA)<b=
r>Pesquisador/Desenvolvedor Intacto Software<br>
-------------<br><a href=3D"http://www.bslima.com">www.bslima.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/2/8 Ezequiel Garc=C3=ADa <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:elezegarcia at yahoo.com.ar">elezegarcia at yahoo.=
com.ar</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td vali=
gn=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit"><p>Bruno,</p><p><br></p><p>Do you have a =
ST 7105 platform ? You will need a development kit platform with 7105 chip,=
 and access through serial port. Once you have that, you need the same as a=
ny PC based Linux OS needs:<br>
</p><p>1. Boot loader</p><p>2. Kernel=C2=A0</p><p>3. Minimum filesystem</p>=
<p>4. Shell</p><p><br></p><p>If you have purchased a development kit, then =
you should be able to ask for support at STLinux: <a href=3D"http://stlinux=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://stlinux.com/</a>.</p>
<p>Once you have all of this, you can cross-compile anything, from wget to =
Ginga.ar, and make it runnable on the 7105.</p><p><br></p><p>Hope it helps,=
 keep in mind the embedded world it is not an easy one.</p><p><br></p><p>
Greetings,</p><p>Ezequiel.</p><br>--- El <b>mar 8-feb-11, Bruno Seabra Lima=
 <i>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br" target=3D"_blank">bs=
lima at telemidia.puc-rio.br</a>&gt;</i></b> escribi=C3=B3:<br><blockquote sty=
le=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5=
px">
<br>De: Bruno Seabra Lima &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br=
" target=3D"_blank">bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br</a>&gt;<br>Asunto: Re: [Gin=
ga-argentina] Instalar Ginga en un STB<br>Para: &quot;Lista de la comunidad=
 argentina de Ginga&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ginga-argentina at lists.ourpr=
oject.org" target=3D"_blank">ginga-argentina at lists.ourproject.org</a>&gt;<b=
r>
Fecha: martes, 8 de febrero de 2011, 17:07<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"=
><br><br><div>Well,<div>As far as i know u need a host pc to cross-compile =
ginga,</div><div>in this host u need to install the STLinux (<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" href=3D"http://www.stlinux.com/install/distribution/introduction" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.stlinux.com/install/distribution/introduction</a>=
)</div>

<div>I&#39;m still reading the STlinux documentation ..</div><div>Thanks an=
d good luck for us :D</div><div><br clear=3D"all">Bruno Seabra Mendon=C3=A7=
a Lima<br>--------------<br>Bacharel em Ci=C3=AAncia da Computa=C3=A7=C3=A3=
o - UFMA<br>Mestrando da PUC-Rio<br>

Pesquisador Laborat=C3=B3rio Telemidia (PUC-Rio)<br>Pesquisador Colaborador=
 LAWS (UFMA)<br>Pesquisador/Desenvolvedor Intacto Software<br>-------------=
<br><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://www.bslima.com" target=3D"_blank">ww=
w.bslima.com</a><br>

<br><br><div>2011/2/8 Felipe Fabio <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow=
" href=3D"http://mc/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"=
>felipe.fabio at emcitec.cl</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Como bien dice Bruno, el documento no tiene nada relacionado a instalar en =
un STB real.<div>He enviado un mail a la empresa que le compr=C3=A9 el STB =
para que me den los datos que me</div><div>describieron porque en la caja y=
 en los documentos que ven=C3=ADan no dice nada.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Bruno, y como te fue en tu intento de instalar ginga en=
 un ST7105?</div><div><br></div><div>Alguien que haya tenido =C3=A9xito en =
esta tarea que comente algunos pasos a seguir.</div><div><br></div><div>Sal=
udos!</div>

<div><br><br><div>El 8 de febrero de 2011 15:10, Bruno Seabra Lima <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3Dbslima@tel=
emidia.puc-rio.br" target=3D"_blank">bslima at telemidia.puc-rio.br</a>&gt;</s=
pan> escribi=C3=B3:<div>

<div><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
<span style=3D"font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span title=3D=
"Click for alternate translations">Lo sento</span>=C2=A0<span title=3D"Clic=
k for alternate translations">por publicar</span>=C2=A0<span title=3D"Click=
 for alternate translations">en Ingl=C3=A9s</span><span title=3D"Click for =
alternate translations">, pero</span>=C2=A0<span title=3D"Click for alterna=
te translations">mi</span>=C2=A0<span title=3D"Click for alternate translat=
ions">espa=C3=B1ol</span>=C2=A0<span title=3D"Click for alternate translati=
ons">es muy</span>=C2=A0<span title=3D"Click for alternate translations">d=
=C3=A9bil</span></span><br clear=3D"all">

<br><div>But this document doesn&#39;t have anything to do with embebed sof=
tware.</div><div>I am also trying to embebed the ginga in a ST7105 chip ...=
</div><div>Does anyone has some guidelines ?</div><div>I really appreciate =
..</div>

<div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Bruno Seabra Mendon=C3=
=A7a Lima<br>--------------<br>Bacharel em Ci=C3=AAncia da Computa=C3=A7=C3=
=A3o - UFMA<br>Mestrando da PUC-Rio<br>Pesquisador Laborat=C3=B3rio Telemid=
ia (PUC-Rio)<br>Pesquisador Colaborador LAWS (UFMA)<br>

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follow" href=3D"http://www.bslima.com" target=3D"_blank">www.bslima.com</a>=
<br>
<br><br><div>2011/2/8 Mario I. Rinaldi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" href=3D"http://mc/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"=
><font color=3D"red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt f=
rom "mc" claiming to be</b></font> mirinaldi at gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><div><=
div><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">

Hola Felipe:<div>Bajate este interesante documento realizado por los amigos=
 de Ginga Per=C3=BA.</div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://www.ginga=
.org.pe:8080/ginga/doc_template/pdf/Informe_Ginga_2010_AAT.pdf" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.ginga.org.pe:8080/ginga/doc_template/pdf/Informe_Ginga_20=
10_AAT.pdf</a></div>

<div>Aqu=C3=AD vas a encontrar informaci=C3=B3n al respecto.</div><div>Espe=
ro te sea de utilidad.</div><div><br></div><div>

Saludos a todos.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Mario Rinaldi<br><br><div>El 8 de febrero de 2011 12:51=
, Fernando Cassia <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://=
mc/compose?to=3Dfcassia at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"red"><b=
>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be=
</b></font> fcassia at gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escribi=C3=B3:<div>

<div><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
2011/2/8 Felipe Fabio &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=
=3Dfelipe.fabio at emcitec.cl" target=3D"_blank">felipe.fabio at emcitec.cl</a>&g=
t;:<br>
<div>&gt; Hola amigos,<br>
&gt; Quiero intentar de instalar Ginga en un STB real, pero no he encontrad=
o<br>
&gt; informaci=C3=B3n de como lograr esto,<br>
&gt; ustedes tienen alg=C3=BAn tutorial de como hacerlo? o me pueden explic=
ar.<br>
&gt; Estoy tratando de conseguirme la especificaci=C3=B3n t=C3=A9cnica para=
 que ustedes me<br>
&gt; digan si es que se puede<br>
&gt; instalar ginga en un STB con las=C2=A0caracter=C3=ADsticas=C2=A0que ti=
ene el m=C3=ADo. A=C3=BAn as=C3=AD<br>
&gt; me servir=C3=ADa un tutorial.<br>
&gt; Muchas gracias por su ayuda.<br>
<br>
</div>El mundo embebido no es como el de las PCs x86 donde s=C3=B3lo &quot;=
lo baj=C3=A1s e<br>
instal=C3=A1s&quot;. Primero ten=C3=A9s que saber qu=C3=A9 CPU tiene tu set=
 top box, si es<br>
arquitectura ARM o MIPS, por ejemplo, cu=C3=A1nta memoria RAM tiene, qu=C3=
=A9<br>
otro hardware (chipset de red, etc), y si el Linux tiene drivers para<br>
=C3=A9l.<br>
<br>
Lo primero que tendr=C3=ADas que conseguir, es una forma de conectarte a tu=
<br>
set tob box (via serie o red) y ver si ten=C3=A9s acceso al shell. Si ya<br>
ten=C3=A9s acceso a la l=C3=ADnea de comandos de Linux (si es que corre Lin=
ux,<br>
podr=C3=ADa ser un S.O. propietario como VxWorks), todo lo dem=C3=A1s se pu=
ede<br>
averiguar m=C3=A1s f=C3=A1cil sin necesidad de abrir el STB y andar con una=
 lupa<br>
identificando chipsets...<br>
<br>
Saludos,<br>
FC<br>
<br>
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