la experiencia australiana
La esperanza no está perdida. Este australiano comenta que allá, una vez que te comiste el umbral te bajan la velocidad a 64kbps fijos. Será eso mejor que los u$s 6 por gb supong? Es feedback del artículo de Cassia en the inquirer, supongo. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19480 --begin quote-- Charge them by the Megabyte, show them who are men Hi, I\'ll tell ya what, \"charge by the megabyte/gigabyte\" is not a new concept. It began with Telstra Cable, here in Australia. Back in 1998, it was like 500MB per month and 25 cent per megabyte! (I recall racking up one hell of a bill just to download Debian Linux!) (Interestingly enough, a more generous version was adopted by some US ISPs as it was generating huge profits...But it didn\'t last long...) However, today its largely unlimited usage but speed is shaped to 64k (8KB/s) once you go over your monthly planned usage (about 10GB or 20GB depending on which plan you go for). In addition, there\'s \"unmetered sites\" that allow you to download distros and other goodies at no cost to you. (and at full speed...I get 10Mbit speeds!) So what Argentina is just starting to experience, we Aussies have been buried with it for quite a while. Not to worry, hopefully, ISPs wise up when they start loosing customers. They most probably will eventually give you unlimited usage, but shaped speeds. (This \"forces\" folks to pay extra if they need more usage, otherwise deal with slow speeds). I guess it depends if the Govt will step in, that\'s what happened in Australia. The Govt body known as the ACCC put their foot down about how unfair the Internet plans were, and how these practices like \"charge by the usage\" will hamper the adoption of broadband services for all Australians. (less people are likely to sign up because they have to keep an eye on the bloody usage!). So, many of us Aussies know how you Argentinian broadband users feel. Regards Stmok __________________________________ Registrate desde http://servicios.arnet.com.ar/registracion/registracion.asp?origenid=9 y participá de todos los beneficios del Portal Arnet.
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:39:38 -0300 (ART), [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
La esperanza no está perdida. Este australiano comenta que allá, una vez que te comiste el umbral te bajan la velocidad a 64kbps fijos. Será eso mejor que los u$s 6 por gb supong?
Muchisimo mejor. Me parece que esa solución beneficia a todos. -- <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=24672&t=1">La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer</a>
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:39:38 -0300 (ART), gerardobdiaz wrote
La esperanza no está perdida. Este australiano comenta que allá, una vez que te comiste el umbral te bajan la velocidad a 64kbps fijos. Será eso mejor que los u$s 6 por gb supong?
es mucho mejor, eso seria aceptable
Es feedback del artículo de Cassia en the inquirer, supongo.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19480
--begin quote--
Charge them by the Megabyte, show them who are men
Hi,
I\'ll tell ya what, \"charge by the megabyte/gigabyte\" is not a new concept.
It began with Telstra Cable, here in Australia. Back in 1998, it was like 500MB per month and 25 cent per megabyte! (I recall racking up one hell of a bill just to download Debian Linux!)
(Interestingly enough, a more generous version was adopted by some US ISPs as it was generating huge profits...But it didn\'t last long...)
However, today its largely unlimited usage but speed is shaped to 64k (8KB/s) once you go over your monthly planned usage (about 10GB or 20GB depending on which plan you go for). In addition, there\'s \"unmetered sites\" that allow you to download distros and other goodies at no cost to you. (and at full speed...I get 10Mbit speeds!)
So what Argentina is just starting to experience, we Aussies have been buried with it for quite a while. Not to worry, hopefully, ISPs wise up when they start loosing customers. They most probably will eventually give you unlimited usage, but shaped speeds. (This \"forces\" folks to pay extra if they need more usage, otherwise deal with slow speeds).
I guess it depends if the Govt will step in, that\'s what happened in Australia. The Govt body known as the ACCC put their foot down about how unfair the Internet plans were, and how these practices like \"charge by the usage\" will hamper the adoption of broadband services for all Australians. (less people are likely to sign up because they have to keep an eye on the bloody usage!).
So, many of us Aussies know how you Argentinian broadband users feel.
Regards Stmok
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Diego Saravia wrote: |> La esperanza no está perdida. Este australiano comenta que |> allá, una vez que te comiste el umbral te bajan la |> velocidad a 64kbps fijos. |> Será eso mejor que los u$s 6 por gb supong? | | es mucho mejor, eso seria aceptable | Ok. Ahora, fijénse en este párrafo, dice que piensa que depende de si el gobierno se mete en el tema, y que eso fué lo que sucedió en Australia, que el `ACCC' estudió que tan injustos eran los planes de acceso, y que tanto impedirían la adopción de banda ancha por todos los australianos. Lo interesante es que esta solución es que resulta medio independiente del precio, y además que Australia tiene una situación territorial bastante similar a la nuestra: gran concentración de habitantes en pocas ciudades y un gran territorio prácticamente inhabitado. Esto la hace más difícil de objetar. Tal vez sería bueno incorporar lo que pasó en Australia en la petición a la secom o la cnc para que tomen cartas en el asunto y actúen de oficio regulando la oferta oligofr^h^hpólica. Claro que esto requeriría que el gigante tonto deje de mirarse el ombligo :-( |> |> I guess it depends if the Govt will step in, that's what |> happened in Australia. The Govt body known as the ACCC |> put their foot down about how unfair the Internet plans |> were, and how these practices like "charge by the |> usage " will hamper the adoption of broadband services |> for all Australians. (less people are likely to sign up |> because they have to keep an eye on the bloody usage!). |> |> So, many of us Aussies know how you Argentinian broadband |> users feel. - -- Gerardo Díaz - ----------------- Asociáte a SOLAR! Software Libre Argentina http://www.solar.org.ar/breve.php3?id_breve=78 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFBi8EOLHLbx9ffmf8RAtKXAJ92W4PftNFpFPhkfE25bB5cCfnOZwCeOocR cKHGHB6DcPxdHm3NUy3YQoo= =fdXH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:06:11 -0300, Gerardo Díaz <[email protected]> wrote:
Lo interesante es que esta solución es que resulta medio independiente del precio, y además que Australia tiene una situación territorial bastante similar a la nuestra: gran concentración de habitantes en pocas ciudades y un gran territorio prácticamente inhabitado.
Otra cosa importante (y parecido a nosotros): Estan aislados georgaficamente (en el culo del mundo diria) con respecto a los grandes centros de consumo como USA/Can y Europa. Las comunicaciones son VITALES. eso es un dato que el gobierno no puede ignorar. -- <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=24672&t=1">La web sin popups ni spyware: Usa Firefox en lugar de Internet Explorer</a>
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