Re: [Solar-general] [Parabola] How to treat logs?
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 01:12, Nicolás Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
El 27/01/11 10:53, Pablo Manuel Rizzo dijo:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 21:43, Nicolás Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
from my own logs:
21:38:28 fauno | when aurelien said irc logs should be public too, i replied saying that much of the stuff going on here are personal opinions 21:38:42 fauno | that doesn't count as project documentation 21:38:52 fauno | i agree meeting logs should be public, of course 21:40:25 fauno | and the transparency thing could be used the other way around 21:40:35 fauno | i won't plan a revolution on public logs
Where would you do that? As far as I know, historically every revolution was public, if it's not, then it's a conspiration, not a revolution. imho.
ok, lets call it revolutionary conspiration ¬¬
Free speech tends to be revolutionary. Do not fear free speech if you're for a revolution. Where "free" means both freedom to speak as to shut up. About words and silence, from a psychological point of view, in yesterday's newspaper: http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/psicologia/9-161196-2011-01-27.html Best :) -- Pablo Manuel Rizzo ------------------------------- http://pablorizzo.com -------------------------------
El 28/01/11 01:40, Pablo Manuel Rizzo dijo:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 01:12, Nicolás Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
El 27/01/11 10:53, Pablo Manuel Rizzo dijo:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 21:43, Nicolás Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
from my own logs:
21:38:28 fauno | when aurelien said irc logs should be public too, i replied saying that much of the stuff going on here are personal opinions 21:38:42 fauno | that doesn't count as project documentation 21:38:52 fauno | i agree meeting logs should be public, of course 21:40:25 fauno | and the transparency thing could be used the other way around 21:40:35 fauno | i won't plan a revolution on public logs
Where would you do that? As far as I know, historically every revolution was public, if it's not, then it's a conspiration, not a revolution. imho.
ok, lets call it revolutionary conspiration ¬¬
Free speech tends to be revolutionary. Do not fear free speech if you're for a revolution.
both are revolutionary tasks, propaganda and conspiration. am i being too leninist? you can't say publicly which move you're going to make unless you want to be repressed, tortured and killed before succeding on the singlest goal, and martyrdom is not my idea of revolution, sorry. that's when you don't have full masses backup, of course :P example: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Cuban_revolution#December_195...
Where "free" means both freedom to speak as to shut up.
i don't get this part. -- Salud! Nicolás Reynolds, xmpp:[email protected] omb:http://identi.ca/fauno blog:http://selfdandi.com.ar/ gnu/linux user #455044 http://parabolagnulinux.org http://endefensadelsl.org
Free speech tends to be revolutionary. Do not fear free speech if you're for a revolution.
both are revolutionary tasks, propaganda and conspiration. am i being too leninist? you can't say publicly which move you're going to make unless you want to be repressed, tortured and killed before succeding on the singlest goal, and martyrdom is not my idea of revolution, sorry.
that's when you don't have full masses backup, of course :P
"las revoluciones las idean los idealistas, las llevan a la práctica los fanaticos, y se aprovechan de ellas los picaros, los inescrupulosos, los sinvergüenzas" Nicanor Parra -- Pablo Manuel Rizzo ------------------------------- http://pablorizzo.com -------------------------------
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