la quinta libertad (y las cuatro libertades)
luego de leer http://www.fsfla.org/?q=es/node/137 e investigando un poco, llegue al origen del termino "las cuatro libertades", sospecho que de alli se inspiro rms, habria que preguntarle, quizas para losnorteamericanos este discurso sea mas conocido http://www.diariosigloxxi.com/noticia.php?id=19999 otra acepcion: http://www.eclac.cl/transporte/noticias/bolfall/4/4994/bol137.htm algunos datos: de rms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#_note-36 He has also commented: "I admire Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill, even though I criticize some of the things that they did."[45] http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/02/28/williams.html?page=last Stewart: How successful do you think the Free Software Foundation has been at achieving its goals? Williams: That depends on what you think the goals are. The original goal was to support the GNU project and to develop a GNU operating system. They obviously fulfilled that goal. They didn't do it in the timely manner that a lot of people expected, but they were really one of the few groups of people actually making this kind of effort. They were definitely one of the few groups that saw it as a political cause. About the time that Linux came on the scene, and kind of filled the gap that they hadn't been able to fill with the Hurd kernel, it seems like their goal morphed a little bit into "free software everywhere." I think in terms of that goal they've done a fairly good job. Probably the biggest thing is that they are the steward of the GPL, which I describe at one point in the book as the big stick in the software industry, you know, like the old Teddy Roosevelt quote: "Speak softly and carry a big stick." -- Williams: I would say not very much. He's a definite liberal, and you can see when he's fighting over this schism between the free software and open source movement that it does kind of come down to political values -- on the one side you've got these libertarian people that just say, "Let my people make their own decisions," and then you've got Stallman, who's got kind of the liberal approach of, "Let people make their own decisions, but at the same time protect people from exploitation." One of the things that interested me, and this goes back to his personality, is that he's not really a coalition builder. There's so much opportunity to link the free software movement to other similar movements, like the environmental movement ... I mean it's all generally the same thing. Capitalism, expansion, growth, corporate culture -- those are all good things, they all help, they're all better than the alternatives -- but at the same time there's notions of responsibility, ethics, and stuff that he has gone a long way in terms of voicing in the software community, but I find it very surprising that he hasn't really expanded beyond that. At one point he said free software was his "small puddle of freedom," and he really can't move out of it, or he doesn't really have the confidence to move out of it, and I think that that has definitely hampered his visibility in some ways. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/02/28/williams.html?page=last -- Diego Saravia [email protected] NO FUNCIONA->[email protected]
El Jue 08 Mar 2007 12:19, Diego Saravia escribió: (...) | Williams: I would say not very much. He's a definite liberal, and you | can see when he's fighting over this schism between the free software | and open source movement that it does kind of come down to political | values -- on the one side you've got these libertarian people that | just say, "Let my people make their own decisions," and then you've | got Stallman, who's got kind of the liberal approach of, "Let people | make their own decisions, but at the same time protect people from | exploitation." Muy interesante | One of the things that interested me, and this goes back to his | personality, is that he's not really a coalition builder. There's so | much opportunity to link the free software movement to other similar | movements, like the environmental movement ... Es curioso cómo los movimientos que protejen el medioambiente y el SL tiene formas similares, ideologías similares, comparten cosas, eso lo vengo registrando desde hace unos meses... | I mean it's all | generally the same thing. Capitalism, expansion, growth, corporate | culture -- those are all good things, they all help, they're all | better than the alternatives -- but at the same time there's notions | of responsibility, ethics, and stuff that he has gone a long way in | terms of voicing in the software community, but I find it very | surprising that he hasn't really expanded beyond that. | | At one point he said free software was his "small puddle of freedom," | and he really can't move out of it, or he doesn't really have the | confidence to move out of it, and I think that that has definitely | hampered his visibility in some ways. Eso último que dice me parece que ya quedó antiguo, es del 2002, por lo que veo, creo que RMS se movió "out of it" por ejemplo cuando vino en 2004 (creo) a la Arg. y habló sobre si las ideas del SL podían expandirse a otros ámbitos cultuales, yo lo escuché en persona en la Cámara de Dip. de La Plata. | http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/02/28/williams.html?page=last -- Marcos Guglielmetti * Director del desarrollo de Musix GNU+Linux, 100% Software Libre * CD Donwload: (http://www.musix.org.ar/en/) * Colabora: http://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Musix099_tasks * Videos, programas y otras cosas en: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/ * Reporte de errores a: https://www.musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php?title=Problemas-Bugs *IRC: #musix channel on freenode * http://autosus.wordpress.com/
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