agreed, Celene exhibits a simplistic understanding of democracy here .. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:52 AM, hellekin <[email protected]> wrote:

Excerpts from Michel Bauwens's message of Sun Sep 18 16:57:04 +0000 2011:

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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <[email protected]> Date: Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:01 PM Subject: Gerald Celente - Society Is Breaking Down To: [email protected]

Video :

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/gerald-celente-things-going-much...

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http://www.declineoftheempire.com/2011/09/gerald-celente-society-is-breaking...

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*** From the video:

"We believe there's a solution by the way. We say direct democracy: let the people vote. If we can bank online, we can vote online."

Warning: that is a very simplistic way of characterizing direct democracy. The previous experience in electronic voting has shown how easy it is to falsify the results when the system is not secure. As you may know, security is a trade-off between the value of what one wants to protect, and the perceived value another is ready to invest to breach that security. Moreover, voting is only a single piece of the process, and probably the least of it: when consensus is reached, voting becomes a formality. Direct democracy is more about reaching that consensus.

To quote David D. Clarke:

We reject: kings, presidents and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and running code.

== hk

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