Re: [P2P-F] Reflecting on OpenDefinition.org in the light of definition of free and open infrastructure, and vice-versa
I should be there Mayo, by the way, any chance we can still get your article on the spanish mobilizations 'not being p2p', as we discussed earlier? sorry for insisting, but I really value your insights, Michel On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Fuster, Mayo <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello to everyone!
I would like to bring to your attention a workshop which is taking place during the Okcon. In short, the plan is reflecting on OpenDefinition.org in the light of definition of free and open infrastructure from the Fcforum 2010, and vice-versa. It would be fantastic to have the input from people in this e-lists involved on the Opendefinition.
Okcon workshop: Defining (and synerging) free and open infrastructure for open online collaboration - July 1st at 12:30 in Workshop II
The workshop will address the legal, technical, governing and economical conditions for free and open infrastructure for open online collaboration. We will build upon Fcforum 2010 definition of free and open infrastructure ( http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab...) importantly aiming to cross and synergy with the work of the open definition of the Open Knowledge Foundation, and the inputs of the people attending the workshop.
Further presentation of the activity here: http://okcon.org/2011/programme/defining-and-synerging-free-and-open-infrast... Definition of free and open infrastructure Fcforum 2010: http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab... Open definition Okfn: http://www.opendefinition.org/okd/
Please let me know if any of you plan to attend and/or would like to do a short introductory intervention to warm up the discussion.
Thank you in advance. Have a nice day! Mayo
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»
Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info
Ph.D European University Institute Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies. Autonomous University of Barcelona. Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of Catalonia (UOC). Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of California, Berkeley. Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.onlinecreation.info E-mail: [email protected] Skype: mayoneti Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748
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Hello Michel! Thank you for your fast and possitive reaction. Fantastic you can attend the workshop on free and open infrastructure at Okcon! (http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab...). If it is fine for you, I would like to include a short introduction from you (around 5 minutes - we don't have much time in total and I think good to priorise a group discussion). If you could also refer in your keynote that we can keep the discussion on the infrastructure layer on the base of what you present at your keynote, would be brilliant.
by the way, any chance we can still get your article on the spanish mobilizations 'not being p2p', as we discussed earlier?
Thanks for your interest! Yes, I also look forward to have time to write it, with so much foing on here is difficult to have the time and the mind for writing. But more than "not being p2p" is that there as some comon values and party common principles between 15M and p2p, but also discontinuities and different organizational solutions (such as in regard to the question of centralizaion versus descentralization, autonomy and political strategy). It is in my to-do list before going to Berlin. Looking forward seeing you and others in this e-list at Berlin. I am arriving on the 29th and leaving on the 3th. Cheers! Mayo From: Michel Bauwens [[email protected]] Sent: 27 June 2011 12:41 To: Fuster, Mayo Cc: p2p-foundation Subject: Re: Reflecting on OpenDefinition.org in the light of definition of free and open infrastructure, and vice-versa I should be there Mayo, by the way, any chance we can still get your article on the spanish mobilizations 'not being p2p', as we discussed earlier? sorry for insisting, but I really value your insights, Michel On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Fuster, Mayo <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hello to everyone! I would like to bring to your attention a workshop which is taking place during the Okcon. In short, the plan is reflecting on OpenDefinition.org in the light of definition of free and open infrastructure from the Fcforum 2010, and vice-versa. It would be fantastic to have the input from people in this e-lists involved on the Opendefinition. Okcon workshop: Defining (and synerging) free and open infrastructure for open online collaboration - July 1st at 12:30 in Workshop II The workshop will address the legal, technical, governing and economical conditions for free and open infrastructure for open online collaboration. We will build upon Fcforum 2010 definition of free and open infrastructure (http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab...) importantly aiming to cross and synergy with the work of the open definition of the Open Knowledge Foundation, and the inputs of the people attending the workshop. Further presentation of the activity here: http://okcon.org/2011/programme/defining-and-synerging-free-and-open-infrast... Definition of free and open infrastructure Fcforum 2010: http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab... Open definition Okfn: http://www.opendefinition.org/okd/ Please let me know if any of you plan to attend and/or would like to do a short introductory intervention to warm up the discussion. Thank you in advance. Have a nice day! Mayo «·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·» Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info Ph.D European University Institute Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies. Autonomous University of Barcelona. Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of Catalonia (UOC). Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of California, Berkeley. Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation http://www.onlinecreation.info E-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Skype: mayoneti Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
ok for the intro time, though I'm not sure I'm really well-informed about the intricacies of the open definitions .. looking forward to hearing your analysis whenever you find the time! you probably know that I have collated various open defs via http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards#Open_Definitions if you know of others that are not listed, thanks for letting me know ... just in case you have access to a printer, and you'd be interested in printing them out for reading them in detail, I would love a copy too, that would allow me to prepare in detail ... here's the list in full: Without broad access none of the below can be used by the average citizen, so check out the: - 12 Real Internet Access and Impact Criteria<http://p2pfoundation.net/Real_Internet_Access_and_Impact_Criteria>, developed by bridges.org in South Africa List of open definitions: 1. The Open Standards Definition<http://perens.com/OpenStandards/Definition.html>. By Bruce Perens. 2. Open Standards Requirement for Software<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Standards_Requirement_for_Software> 3. Free Content Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Free_Content_Definition> 4. Open Knowledge Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Knowledge_Definition> ; Declaration on Libre Knowledge<http://p2pfoundation.net/Declaration_on_Libre_Knowledge> 5. The Open Software Service Definition <http://opendefinition.org/ossd>, i.e. The *Free/Open Service Definition* (v1.0) 6. Franklin Street Statement on Freedom and Network Services<http://p2pfoundation.net/Franklin_Street_Statement_on_Freedom_and_Network_Services>, which concerns Network Service Licenses<http://p2pfoundation.net/Network_Service_Licenses> 7. Draft for discussion proposed by Evan Prodromou: Principles for Free Services <http://p2pfoundation.net/Principles_for_Free_Services> 8. The Free Network Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Free_Network_Definition>, draft proposed by the Free Network Foundation<http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Standards?title=Free_Network_Foundation&action=edit&redlink=1> Media-related: 1. Definition of Free Cultural Works<http://p2pfoundation.net/Definition_of_Free_Cultural_Works> 2. Open Source Media Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Media_Definition> FLOSS <http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOSS>-related: 1. Open Source Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Definition> 2. Debian's Free Software Guidelines<http://p2pfoundation.net/Debian%27s_Free_Software_Guidelines> Design and Manufacturing: 1. Open Design Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Design_Definition> 2. Open Source Hardware Definition<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Hardware_Definition> Also: 1. *What do we need to have "economically-significant, replicable, open source physical production efforts*?", i.e. true Distributive Production<http://p2pfoundation.net/Distributive_Production>. Marcin Jakubowski proposes a set of OSE Specifications<http://p2pfoundation.net/OSE_Specifications>to judge such efforts. 2. The Social Contract for Virtual Citizens<http://p2pfoundation.net/Virtual_Citizens_Association> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Fuster, Mayo <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Michel!
Thank you for your fast and possitive reaction. Fantastic you can attend the workshop on free and open infrastructure at Okcon! ( http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab...). If it is fine for you, I would like to include a short introduction from you (around 5 minutes - we don't have much time in total and I think good to priorise a group discussion). If you could also refer in your keynote that we can keep the discussion on the infrastructure layer on the base of what you present at your keynote, would be brilliant.
by the way, any chance we can still get your article on the spanish mobilizations 'not being p2p', as we discussed earlier?
Thanks for your interest! Yes, I also look forward to have time to write it, with so much foing on here is difficult to have the time and the mind for writing. But more than "not being p2p" is that there as some comon values and party common principles between 15M and p2p, but also discontinuities and different organizational solutions (such as in regard to the question of centralizaion versus descentralization, autonomy and political strategy). It is in my to-do list before going to Berlin.
Looking forward seeing you and others in this e-list at Berlin. I am arriving on the 29th and leaving on the 3th. Cheers! Mayo
From: Michel Bauwens [[email protected]] Sent: 27 June 2011 12:41 To: Fuster, Mayo Cc: p2p-foundation Subject: Re: Reflecting on OpenDefinition.org in the light of definition of free and open infrastructure, and vice-versa
I should be there Mayo,
by the way, any chance we can still get your article on the spanish mobilizations 'not being p2p', as we discussed earlier?
sorry for insisting, but I really value your insights,
Michel
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Fuster, Mayo <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote: Hello to everyone!
I would like to bring to your attention a workshop which is taking place during the Okcon. In short, the plan is reflecting on OpenDefinition.org in the light of definition of free and open infrastructure from the Fcforum 2010, and vice-versa. It would be fantastic to have the input from people in this e-lists involved on the Opendefinition.
Okcon workshop: Defining (and synerging) free and open infrastructure for open online collaboration - July 1st at 12:30 in Workshop II
The workshop will address the legal, technical, governing and economical conditions for free and open infrastructure for open online collaboration. We will build upon Fcforum 2010 definition of free and open infrastructure ( http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab...) importantly aiming to cross and synergy with the work of the open definition of the Open Knowledge Foundation, and the inputs of the people attending the workshop.
Further presentation of the activity here: http://okcon.org/2011/programme/defining-and-synerging-free-and-open-infrast... Definition of free and open infrastructure Fcforum 2010: http://fcforum.net/en/sustainable-models-for-creativity/how-to-manual#collab... Open definition Okfn: http://www.opendefinition.org/okd/
Please let me know if any of you plan to attend and/or would like to do a short introductory intervention to warm up the discussion.
Thank you in advance. Have a nice day! Mayo
«·´`·.(*·.¸(`·.¸ ¸.·´)¸.·*).·´`·» «·´¨*·¸¸« Mayo Fuster Morell ».¸.·*¨`·» «·´`·.(¸.·´(¸.·* *·.¸)`·.¸).·´`·»
Research Digital Commons Governance: http://www.onlinecreation.info
Ph.D European University Institute Postdoctoral Researcher. Institute of Govern and Public Policies. Autonomous University of Barcelona. Visiting scholar. Internet Interdisciplinary Institute. Open University of Catalonia (UOC). Visiting researcher (2008). School of information. University of California, Berkeley. Member Research Committee. Wikimedia Foundation
http://www.onlinecreation.info E-mail: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Skype: mayoneti Phone Spanish State: 0034-648877748
-- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
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