Eli, Devin, & Michel, Thanks for your e-mails and feedback - and apologies for the delay in responding. I acknowledge that what I wrote in that context was perhaps somewhat rash - and I apologise if it was out of line. In all honesty, I think the OSE project is an ingenious idea - and it has opened my eyes in certain r espects. I also realise that Marcin - or other organisers - do make an allowance for the possible development of a "resource-based economy". The author(s) mention the possibility of a sort of "New economics" in the OSE specifications - http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Specifications#Point_by_Point . On the other hand, it is already evident to me that many (or perhaps most) of the people involved or interested in OSE have little or no interest in a "gift economy" (I have reservations about that term, but let's overlook that for the moment). See this thread for example: http://forum.opensourceecology.org/discussion/318/why-get-rid-of-money . So, although I would be happy to engage with and learn from the community and perhaps contribute at some sta ge, I don't believe it is necessarily the most appropriate community within which to be discussing the afore -mentioned ideas. Sincerely David Collins GPG id 646C8A43