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Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:30 AM Subject: Chris Carlsson also commented on his link. To: Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> Chris Carlsson also commented on his link. Chris wrote: "Hi Michel, thanks very much for your thoughtful comments. I completely agree, of course, that the key point of working-class recomposition was left out of my post. I did it on purpose, but with the knowledge that the bleakness of the decomposition story needs its antidote. I think you filled it in in less than 24 hours! An additional point might be that the old 19th and 20th century forms of protest are themselves increasingly obsolete in the face of the Spectacle, of the most modern organization of capitalist life. The networks of Nowtopians, while real and vital and a place I put a lot of hope too, have not yet found (perhaps for not trying, not sure) a public political voice that presents the new way of life in opposition to the maintenance of the status quo–a status quo that is so patently brutal and stupid, that it is hard to believe anyone still defends it! Anyway, many thanks for your rejoinder. I don’t know if the protests and movements in Europe, South America, and east Asia are harbingers of a real transformation, or historically familiar political expressions that will be subsumed by the dominant logic of markets and money, as so many of the prior movements and revolts have been. Clearly we all have to ponder how to shape together a real global alternative to the barbarism that is still “winning,” and I would love to see mass revolts in Europe or South America point the way to an ecologically sane, materially sound, psychologically rich life for everyone… Here’s to a new year and a new decade, full of hope and possibility at least as much as it is spiraling into a very dark place!" To see the comment thread, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/n/?chris.carlsson1%2Fposts%2F185106044850922&mid=395... Thanks, The Facebook Team ___ Reply to this email to comment on this link. This message was intended for [email protected]. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please follow the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=c05bf5&u=528245547&mid=395779fG1f7c632bGd7ff... Facebook, Inc. P.O. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI