---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Geert Lovink <[email protected]> Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:22 AM Subject: Re: <nettime> notes from the DIEM25 launch To: a moderated mailing list for net criticism <[email protected]> Dear nettimers, perhaps it is good to give an update where DIEM25 stands at the moment. I can by no means claim that I have an overview. There is a core group around Yanis Varoufakis and they have been busy with setting up a website including a separate forum for discussions: http://www.diem25.org/forum/ The next milestone is the DIEM25 event in Rome on March 23, 2016: https://democracyineurope.eu/ There is also an event in Amsterdam called the G-10 of the Economy: http://www.g10vandeeconomie.nl/programEN.php Here are more articles and news snippets: http://diem25.org/news/. Best, Geert -- This is the update from March 17 by Yanis Varoufakis: Hello everyone. I feel a certain trepidation posting my first comment on our brand new Forum. So, let me go straight into the one aspect of DiEM25 that has been at the top of everyone's mind: How to kick start our Transparency in Europe Now! campaign in a manner that is not only effective 'externally' (i.e. making the Rome event a success, helping attract numerous signatories to our petition etc.) but also in a manner reflecting our capacity to bring transparency to DiEM25's internal operations. I have followed with interest some criticisms waged at the way members have been observing "things happening in DiEM25 out of nowhere" (the very announcement of the Rome event, the choice of stuff that appears on the site etc.) and without feeling they have a say in any of this. Undoubtedly, this smacks of hypocrisy for any movement that places transparency at the top of its list of priorities. But, let me assure everyone, that this is also the view of those of us who have been working behind the scenes. Every initiative needs initiators - even initiatives that seek to embrace a flat management, spontaneous order, horizontal organisation way of doing 'stuff'. We were hoping to be able to move quickly from the initiation phase (during which a number of us would get DiEM25 together) to the open source phase (where the rest of you would take over and run with it). Unfortunately, our digital platform proved unequal to the task immediately after Berlin. So, we spent a great deal longer than we wanted at the initiation phase. We are now close to the moment of the Great Transition (to the open source phase). To the moment when DiEM25 will be able to practise that which it preaches regarding transparency. But before we get there, perhaps it is pertinent to ask everyone: HOW DO YOU SUGGEST WE GO TO THE OPEN SOURCE PHASE? WHAT WOULD THIS PHASE BE LIKE IN TERMS OF ORGANISING DIEM25 PER LANGUAGE, PER EUROPEAN COUNTRY, AND EUROPE-WISE? Let's talk about this, shall we? Yanis Varoufakis # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: