I have no problem with this desire, only if it is used as either a realistic expectation in all circumstances or a litmus test to judge social and political movements and advances ... personally, I found the countervailing value of respecting where people are in their own evolution just as important though .. and I would be looking for a balance between those two polarities .. I live here in a society where authencity is seen as a counter-value and hypocrisy seen as a positive and crucial requirement for social harmony .. I may not agree with it, and often deplore it, but I also have to respect it and adapt to it, Michel << I do feel hurt when my desire for a more authentic communication is seen as a belief in instantaneous wish fulfilment. But I'm guessing that when you talk about me not appreciating how difficult this process is, and my expecting it to happen instantaneously, that you might be feeling that it is easier for me, that I am ready, and do not struggle with it as you do. If that is the case, perhaps it might be more helpful if I were to talk about how difficult I find it to put these feelings into words, or take on board what someone else is saying, how often I might dismiss what they say by making judgements before I can really hear what is being said, what a struggle it is to try and stay with what is real and alive. -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/