I apologize, I have not read the paper, I have always been very sympathetic to UBI, but I rather did not study all the material available. But I have a simple question. Has there been some studies or work done analyzing the potential and feasibility UBI in developing countries? I live in Colombia. A country with 48.6 million people. Many of these persons don't get much of a help from the state, and most live on rather low salaries, whereas though the divide is huge. Of course living costs are also lower. There is minimum wage set by the state after negotiation every year with worker unions, industry leaders etc. Currently it is 737000 pesos per month - about 240 USD. I naively assume that the calculation would go like 240USD x 12months x 48500000 people = nearly 140 billions USD in a year. GDP was almost exactly the double of this figure, 282.5 billion. I wonder if my math is acceptable, or if I am totally misunderstanding UBI (beyond the nice side that makes it so appealing), in terms of how to calculate it and the relationship of it with a country's 'performance', or rather potential to actually implement it. So the question is, is UBI feasible and doable for a country like Colombia? Thanks and apologies if I hijacked this thread for this question. Best wishes to all Fabio On 22 Nov 2017 1:42 p.m., "Anna Harris" <[email protected]> wrote:
I took a brief look at this paper and found it seriously disappointing. I hope someone with more heart to read through a caricature of UBI as presented here, will make a more thorough criticism. UBI is presented as a way to 'escape work', and as anti productivity, 'post work dreamers', following a remark by Marx that it was a misfortune to be a productive worker. I cannot claim to have read all the literature, but this interpretation of the motivation for UBI does not ring true to me. The possibility for people to be free to choose how they spend their time, in what way they want to contribute to social wellbeing, as a result of UBI, does not seem to enter this analysis.
Finally what I understood positively was that it should be administered by us rather than the state, good point, and can connect with social projects needed to make the transition to a society that works for all. Both of these points could have been made without attempting to debunk UBI, and it's having many supporters of different colours (as if that is a criticism) Anna
On 21 Nov 2017, at 19:07, Theodoros Karyotis <[email protected]> wrote:
A critique of the plan for a Basic Income and its conception of the state, money, wage, and labour:
<http://www.bath.ac.uk/cds/publications/bdp55.pdf>
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